Hildibrand for relic? Really?

[Imora]

I'll go on record and say I didn't do ShB relics either because unlocking bozja was painful.

[Irenia]

Whether you liked or disliked Ivalice, Eureka, Hildi, Bozja, or whatever. Doesn't matter.

Putting one piece of content over another as "more valid" than any other in order to make your is asinine and cowardly.

The gripes of a person being forced to do Ivalice and a person being forced to do Hildibrand... they're the same. Doesn't matter what you or me think of the content.

[Kukajoo]

The community divide, visualized upon learning of the relic being tied to Hildy.

[Zanarkand-Ronso]

The community divide, visualized upon learning of the relic being tied to Hildy.

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[Xeronia]

So obviously a friend and I have been having a pretty serious discussion about this very topic and we arrived at "We both like relic grinds so we will still do it but will the people who think they are getting more Hildibrand be happy when the inevitable first long grind step comes up." Several of the people I am seeing rejoice in Legendary Manderville Weapons stopped Bozja due to the amount of required items needed at points for steps and honestly to me Bozja was probably the easiest relic in the game if you could get through CLL. I am just not really sure anyone truly wins here. People who want more Hildibrand will be expecting that story but I am not sure they are anticipating the first "Go collect 30 Emil Heads from Nier/Go do 60 Fates" step that happens. Meanwhile the people who want a relic grind may just be skipping cutscenes to get what they want, their grindy content over an expansion.

I will be very interested to see how it all plays out.

[YukikoKurosawa]

Many people have already done the Hildy quests for the enjoyment of them without even being aware they would even be made mandatory for anything. So for those of us who have we can just go straight into building up the new relics on release day.

Which already puts it leagues above both the pre-requisites and mandatory grind for Eurka and Bozja relics. This is really only a problem for people who never did Hildy or don't like them, in which case, spend a few hours skipping cutscenes. I don't know why anyone would prefer Eureka or Bozja style of relic grinding over this.

On top of that what do you even need the relics for? BIS? For what content? Nothing out right now even requires relics, the hardest content ever released was cleared with savage gear. Who the fuck cares about relics save for glamour, or parsers obsessed with having higher and higher numbers to flex over? Unless you seriously care about the glam (and most likely they'll be goofy and stupid looking considering what they're associated with) this entire drama is a complete non-issue.

The real drama should be if they finally show what they're going to look like and they look goofy and stupid as I predict they will.

[XiRon]

Many people have already done the Hildy quests for the enjoyment of them without even being aware they would even be made mandatory for anything. So for those of us who have we can just go straight into building up the new relics on release day.

Which already puts it leagues above both the pre-requisites and mandatory grind for Eurka and Bozja relics. This is really only a problem for people who never did Hildy or don't like them, in which case, spend a few hours skipping cutscenes. I don't know why anyone would prefer Eureka or Bozja style of relic grinding over this.

On top of that what do you even need the relics for? BIS? For what content? Nothing out right now even requires relics, the hardest content ever released was cleared with savage gear. Who the fuck cares about relics save for glamour, or parsers obsessed with having higher and higher numbers to flex over? Unless you seriously care about the glam (and most likely they'll be goofy and stupid looking considering what they're associated with) this entire drama is a complete non-issue.

BiS only matters for ultimate and there IS an ultimate in 6.3 supposedly (it could get a pushback). But beyond that nothing ever requires BiS people get in such a tizzy over it because...bis saves like maybe a half minute in Savage, whoopie. Which wont matter by 6.55 anyway bc gear'll be high enough to manage anything with tomestone or even crafted gear.

[Dikatis]

As someone who's been keeping up with Hildibrand and enjoy his misadventures, I'm not personally bothered by this, but I can understand why gating content can feel bad for people. For a game that has a lot of freedom of choice on how to spend your time, forcing players to tackle a form of side content they don't enjoy (even if it's just 2 hours spent skipping through cutscenes) to get to the part they do want isn't the best game design considering that only 1/4 relic questlines up to this point had any requirements besides MSQ (though you could also say similar things about the secret role quests in ShB and EW).

I also agree with the sentiment that this pushes Hildibrand adventures into semi-mandatory territory for people who want the weapons (however they look like, I'm not convinced that they're all going to be joke-y looking. Even then, Eureka and Blade weapons were very hit-or-miss with their aesthetics), which may be unpleasant. It's not like you can't engage with Godbert outside of Hildibrand's adventures anyways, but I'd be interested in seeing why Hildibrand was made mandatory to access this questline.

[XiRon]

I really just hope the weapon contest designs are added to the game for mgp.
They were made by fans they should be usable at lv1 for funsies not an endgame weapon.
Also they aint updated the weapon mgp selection since stb jobs, as theres nothing for gnb, dnc, rpr, or sge.

On that fanmade note, add nongendered Neoishgardian lv1 gear ala sky pirate glams lol I'd kill to wear the ladies fending or healing battlegown I hate the vest thing.

[ZavosEsperian]

Which already puts it leagues above both the pre-requisites and mandatory grind for Eurka and Bozja relics.

Per the 4.25 Patch Notes:



Other than beating the MSQ and completing your level 70 Job Quest because that is how those relics work (and lets be honest, you need to do it anyway for a level 70 job ability). What else am I missing as far as prerequisites go for Eureka Weapons? The mandatory grind is irrelevant because all relics have mandatory grinds, it is more of a matter of whether you liked that style of mandatory grind. I will never justify a prerequisite for a relic as I was not a fan of that in ShB either.