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  1. #211
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    PorxiesRCute's Avatar
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    Nekhii Qestir
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    Queueing into any of the Hildy trials on Materia DC is a huge pain in the neck due to how few people have them unlocked. Requiring them for relics = more people will unlock them = more people will get them in Trial Roulette. This is a win in my book.

    (Also, the ARR Hildy quests may have been tedious and annoying, but the HW and ShB ones were Solidly Okay.)
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    Last edited by PorxiesRCute; 07-02-2022 at 03:11 AM.

  2. #212
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kaurhz View Post
    Absurdly long? Just skip the scenes, it takes like 2-4 hours which is probably not so different from their requirement of Ivalician raids for the Bozjan relics. Ivalice doesn't act as any form of skill-check LOL. Those raids are regularly a 30-40 minute slogfest of wiping and throwing corpses at the bosses until they die.
    Yea my friend who skips all cutscenes finished it very quickly.
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  3. #213
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    Quote Originally Posted by MikkoAkure View Post
    We're on a long journey to find the secrets behind the Dragonsong War, traveling with people from both sides who hold different ideologies, and we make our way to the world's highest peak to meet Hraesvelgr, only to find a tribe of Moogles that we had no prior context for and we need to do favors for them in order to proceed and it can't be skipped.

    I don't know if you were around back when HW was new, but people complained about the Moogles back then and then over time they got over it. The complaining obviously had no impact at all on the writing for future expansions.

    This isn't new, and this wasn't invented in ShB. I think people fall back on Y'shtola's one random silly line, or hamburgers, or Lopporits, or flying pigs just because it's recent and more present in their head right now.


    I would like some transparency from them to see if there's a specific reason we wouldn't expect relic zones like the 2 previous expansions, but I think cost and overall negative reception to zones like the original Diadem, Eureka, and Bozja over the years can be to blame. I can't remember the Matsuno tweets specific words, but it seemed that Bozja was abruptly cut off from an order from above. The team who does the stuff like that seems to be working things like criterion dungeons and the new PotD that was teased anyhow and that could also be reasons for it.

    Eureka and Bozja were their own things that relic got tied to. You didn't NEED to do relic to do those. People back in the day even complained about relic being tied to Eureka. Relic originally was just it's own separate thing that had no real storyline except for a grind and "haha, drunk highlander is in debt again and pretends to not be in love with his ex". Now relic is tied to something else and the teams who worked on the other stuff are now doing other things. We could end up getting something new that is similar to those that isn't tied to relic. Until we know more, we wait and see.
    It’s less about them being recent and moreso it being constant. Again, you’re falling back on a single thing, moogles, who had a single arc. Compare that to ShB where we have things like flying pigs being instrumental to the storyline and then fast forward to EW where we have 2 entire arcs dedicated to loporrits in an expansion about the world ending, not just a single country being in turmoil BUT THE ENTIRE WORLD, and it’s the expansion filled with the most fluff and least amount of consequences overall…. and then it’s the same the next patch where we have yshtola acting like a 5 yr old.
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  4. #214
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    Alondite Ragnell
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    You see the humor is not only is his clothes ripped, but he's upside down in the ground. I didn't see you laugh the 47th time this happened during the hildibrand quest so we included it at least 71 more times in 6.2

    Thanks for playing
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  5. #215
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    Asuka Kirai
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    Quote Originally Posted by Zumi View Post
    Yea my friend who skips all cutscenes finished it very quickly.
    Honestly, the length of the quest is the weirdest complaint/angle to take given the context of the matter is relics, where grinding, and time-wasting endeavors form an integral part of the experience.

    I could understand if the issue was the light-hearted, 'comedic' nature of Hildibrand, but man the length of the quests is just the worst possible angle I think, especially when you can skip them. At least that is the issue people are bringing up now at least, which is a positive -- But we'll have to see what actually substance is behind it rather than being too presumptuous about it.
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  6. #216
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    Sorry I am not up to date on what is going on...we getting more Hildabrand content?
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    When you deal with human beings, never count on logic or consistency.

    Fluid like water. Smooth like silk. Pepperoni like pizza.

  7. #217
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    Narumi Akiudo
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ascended_Demon View Post
    I know we have no idea what the weapons will look like but honestly? The vibes do not mesh. I would like majestic, visually impressive relics not something made out of pyrite.
    the quests will involve gerold who is a low key comic relief character anyways and you can basically bet your ass that we will also get to see godbert lend a hand, and that dood for all his antics is pretty much the most respected gold smith in the realm and does surprisingly pretty work if he puts his mind to it so i wouldn't worry to much about the weapons ending up gaudy, maybe an early step as a kinda joke but surely not the end result.
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    Last edited by Akiudo; 07-02-2022 at 03:56 AM.

  8. #218
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    Kaimir Barone
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    I love hildibrand but honestly, i don't understand why locking relic through it. You could've just made a throwback to hildibrand in the relic story but I don't see much point on having them together.
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  9. #219
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    Quote Originally Posted by AmpelioB View Post
    I love hildibrand but honestly, i don't understand why locking relic through it. You could've just made a throwback to hildibrand in the relic story but I don't see much point on having them together.
    that one is kinda easy to solve i would say, its cutting development costs aswell as time. they promised more hildibrand, by doing it like this they can offer a lot more hildibrand for people that like it without doing really any extra work as getting a relic weapon was basically a given.

    at the end of the day its a win for those that like hildibrand and a loss for those that don't, but people need to at least admit that some "super serious" relic quest also isn't everyones cup of tea.
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  10. #220
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    Bacent Rekkes
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    Are you also mad about the tea kettles, OP?
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    Please show support for chocobo boots to be added -> http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/threads/323512-Suggestion-for-an-item-to-be-added-to-gold-saucer-Chocobo-Boots

    Unhappy with how they implemented Mahjong? -> http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/threads/381358-Mahjong-is-the-most-depressing-mini-game-you-ve-added-to-XIV

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