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    i really don't get peoples fixation with wanting main characters to die... i get it, it would be "shocking", and yes there was a time with a lot more death on the good guys side than what we have now, but is it really so important to kill of part of the main cast ? lord of the rings doesn't kill of any main cast after halfway into the first book and even has gandalf "die" and come back even more powerfull than before and it's still considered one of the greatest fantasy epics of all time. Or for anime/manga fans take one piece which had 2 non flashback deaths for the first 1000 or so chapters. why on earth are people so obsessed with main character deaths as if this is the absolutely only way to get a compelling story ?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Akiudo View Post
    i really don't get peoples fixation with wanting main characters to die... i get it, it would be "shocking", and yes there was a time with a lot more death on the good guys side than what we have now, but is it really so important to kill of part of the main cast ? lord of the rings doesn't kill of any main cast after halfway into the first book and even has gandalf "die" and come back even more powerfull than before and it's still considered one of the greatest fantasy epics of all time. Or for anime/manga fans take one piece which had 2 non flashback deaths for the first 1000 or so chapters. why on earth are people so obsessed with main character deaths as if this is the absolutely only way to get a compelling story ?
    People who watched too much game of thrones and thought that was good probably.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Akiudo View Post
    i really don't get peoples fixation with wanting main characters to die...
    I think, if we're talking about ShB, that's it not so much about wanting anyone to die, but how much the scions kept "flirting" with death while not actually dying. So many situations would have been certain death for anyone else, but they have such a strong plot armor and are basically mary sues at this point. Y'shtola and Thancred more than the rest, honestly. It's hard to take a character seriously under those circumstances. And at this point we know that whatever they go through they will never ever really die, so it kills any sort of tension. Even EW with its "all my friends sacrificed themselves""just bring them back". We just know that nothing bad will ever happen to them, no matter what they go through. Which I guess for many it can be a relief, but for others makes them less believable.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tlamila View Post
    I think, if we're talking about ShB, that's it not so much about wanting anyone to die, but how much the scions kept "flirting" with death while not actually dying. So many situations would have been certain death for anyone else, but they have such a strong plot armor and are basically mary sues at this point. Y'shtola and Thancred more than the rest, honestly. It's hard to take a character seriously under those circumstances. And at this point we know that whatever they go through they will never ever really die, so it kills any sort of tension. Even EW with its "all my friends sacrificed themselves""just bring them back". We just know that nothing bad will ever happen to them, no matter what they go through. Which I guess for many it can be a relief, but for others makes them less believable.
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    me and my friends make a bet every new expansion: in how many quests will Yshtola "die"? How many times will a Scion be kidnapped?

    I advise you to do this, it's a lot of fun
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    Genshin Impact a free to play mobile gatcha game puts out events every 40 days that are fully voiced and an engaging story. FF which is a subscription game with a full price tag does like 5 events a year and still can't put 10% of the effort. Something is wrong.

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    Saraide Derosa
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    Quote Originally Posted by Akiudo View Post
    i really don't get peoples fixation with wanting main characters to die... i get it, it would be "shocking", and yes there was a time with a lot more death on the good guys side than what we have now, but is it really so important to kill of part of the main cast ? lord of the rings doesn't kill of any main cast after halfway into the first book and even has gandalf "die" and come back even more powerfull than before and it's still considered one of the greatest fantasy epics of all time. Or for anime/manga fans take one piece which had 2 non flashback deaths for the first 1000 or so chapters. why on earth are people so obsessed with main character deaths as if this is the absolutely only way to get a compelling story ?
    Game of thrones has irreversably damaged people in that regard. That and a weird fixation on grimdark themes, not understanding that grimdark in its most serious fashion fundamentally does not work and only makes for trash stories.
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