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  1. #81
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    LaylaTsarra's Avatar
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    Y'sira Kurai
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    Quote Originally Posted by RyuDragnier View Post
    The way relics usually go is they're part of some questline, but then they have you do a bunch of random odds and ends to get parts for it. Run raids, dungeons, FATEs, etc etc until you have enough of the part, then hand it in and the weapon is created. It being attached to Hildibrand likely won't mess with the formula, but you can expect to see some funny designs and possibly a goofy cutscene when they make it.
    I loved the relic zones so we'll see how this goes. Doesn't sound like we're getting any and I think that was actually stated by the team although I don't have a link. They haven't expanded on it yet and hopefully we'll learn a lot more with the next live letter.
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    Aelona Chillwind
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lauront View Post
    It depends on the design of the weapons. If they're just clown weapons in design, I'll skip it altogether. If they're decent and can be grinded using roulettes etc., fine, then it's just a pity that any associated content won't be of much interest to me.
    This is a bit of a concern to me too, but I don't think they're going to be honestly.
    It's not only Hildibrand, keep in mind that Gerolt is still involved too.

    My guess is that they're not going to be '' clown weapons '' but moreso majestic and all golden and stuff maybe.
    I think the design theme they might be going with is something like '' masterpiece ''.
    I don't think it'll be like the Saucer weapons or anything like that.
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  3. #83
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    Matthieu Desrosiers
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    Quote Originally Posted by Youkulm View Post
    that's how a lot of people felt about eureka and bozja (like myself), so this is fair and makes perfect sense.
    Many people enjoyed Eureka and Bozja. The latter was cut short artificially despite being planned to be meatier - so I don't think that qualifies as 'fair'. Especially not when more and more of the game is increasingly steeped in inoffensive, wacky humour.

    It's a matter of balance and I hope they can manage to maintain it.
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  4. #84
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    Mika_Zahard's Avatar
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    Mika Zahard
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    Quote Originally Posted by VelKallor View Post
    You are assuming they are "powerful"..they could just as easily be glamour weps.

    This sounds like fun....remember what that is? Fun? Enjoyment?

    Not every damned thing in the FF 14 world has to be tied to player power
    Stop trolling. Relic weapons have been stronger than current content, only second to savage weapons.
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  5. #85
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    Astra Deferr
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    Quote Originally Posted by Youkulm View Post
    I guess you never did the ARR Relic Kettle quest. lol...
    Just so we all know how those kettle quests work: you do relic first, learn some lore for Zodiark Braves, and only after the relic is done you have a meme quest about a kettle.

    What we have now though, you have 4 DLCs of not-every-one's-cup-'o-tea humor to get to the start of relic quest.
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  6. #86
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kolsykol View Post
    This is a bit of a concern to me too, but I don't think they're going to be honestly.
    It's not only Hildibrand, keep in mind that Gerolt is still involved too.

    My guess is that they're not going to be '' clown weapons '' but moreso majestic and all golden and stuff maybe.
    I think the design theme they might be going with is something like '' masterpiece ''.
    I don't think it'll be like the Saucer weapons or anything like that.
    This is what I'm expecting. I mean, look at the kettles. Yes they're a bit silly but they also are visually impressive. We can expect no less from Gerolt and Godbert is a master goldsmith. I'd love if they brought Jalzahn back into things, too.
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  7. #87
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    Youkulm's Avatar
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    Arle Egress
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    Quote Originally Posted by Theodric View Post
    Many people enjoyed Eureka and Bozja. The latter was cut short artificially despite being planned to be meatier - so I don't think that qualifies as 'fair'. Especially not when more and more of the game is increasingly steeped in inoffensive, wacky humour.

    It's a matter of balance and I hope they can manage to maintain it.
    And many people enjoy Hildebrand, its ok you don't like it. Again, that's fair, its your opinion. The ARR Relic Quest was just as silly (still love my relic kettles for monk!) so I think it'll be fun to go back to that.

    I agree there needs to be a balance. It's a "wait and see thing", no point in speculating I suppose.
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    These forums are so melodramatic I feel like I'm watching a latin soap opera.
    Any moment now it will be revealed that WHM is cheating on SCH with MNK after having had DRG's baby and DRG is WHM's cousin who is already married to PLD.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kolsykol View Post
    This is a bit of a concern to me too, but I don't think they're going to be honestly.
    It's not only Hildibrand, keep in mind that Gerolt is still involved too.

    My guess is that they're not going to be '' clown weapons '' but moreso majestic and all golden and stuff maybe.
    I think the design theme they might be going with is something like '' masterpiece ''.
    I don't think it'll be like the Saucer weapons or anything like that.
    Here's hoping. When I hear about relics I'm thinking about something powerful, no matter how it was introduced. If they make the relic steps funny but keep the designs acceptable, then fine, so be it.
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  9. #89
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    Fenris Pendragon
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    All I'm seeing is 10 pages that demonstrate how the target audience and playerbase has shifted away from what originally brought me to this game. This is just disappointing.
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  10. #90
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    Tristain Archambeau
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    Quote Originally Posted by Theodric View Post
    Many people enjoyed Eureka and Bozja. The latter was cut short artificially despite being planned to be meatier - so I don't think that qualifies as 'fair'. Especially not when more and more of the game is increasingly steeped in inoffensive, wacky humour.

    It's a matter of balance and I hope they can manage to maintain it.
    Agreed. I'm also concerned we will see more of this seep over into the MSQ again, because I am not entirely sure Yoshi is going to scale back from 6.1 when he thought that was the "limit" of what they can take it to. At the end of the day it means the expansion will involve less world-building of interest to me, if it adheres to the usual Hildibrand tone.

    Quote Originally Posted by aveyond-dreams View Post
    All I'm seeing is 10 pages that demonstrate how the target audience and playerbase has shifted away from what originally brought me to this game. This is just disappointing.
    Never forget, "tiny minority".
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    Last edited by Lauront; 07-01-2022 at 10:30 PM.
    When the game's story becomes self-aware:


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