Hildibrand for relic? Really?

[Avatre]

Yeah - I mean, I'm not saying I dislike Bozja in itself but, so far as grinding for Crystals is concerned, the fact that they were not a guaranteed drop and you could do numerous FATES without actually receiving one, is really frustrating and I do prefer being able to obtain Relic items via predictable, guaranteed, 'currency'.

It was the same in ARR with the Atma. You could go 50+ FATE without getting a single one, heck even with the buffed drop rate there is still that possibility(I think the crystals for the HW relic are that same and can go multiple without getting a crystal).

They could always go the Eureka route, and make you need tons of the crystals per weapon(iirc it was way more than 5k crystals for all weapons...lost the calculations I had somewhere, and basically gave up getting those done for now).

[Atelier-Bagur]

I do remember how much Eureka was disliked here (I was part of that crowd. Its the only relic I never finished) but Bozja was a bit more well received because one could do the relic outside of it. (At least for some parts...) In the end though those who dont like the Endwalker relic might not be the same who complained about Bozja and Eureka in the past. We do have different groups of people here.

For me though I like the ARR and HW structures way more. Some of the grind like the books would have been fine if instead of having a certain fate we would just have to grind a certain amount in a certain region. I just like that you can get your relic by doing the various amount of old content the game has to offer. I really hate it being restricted to one new map because most of the time its bascially just fate grinding with a new name.

So for me lets return to the relic where you are bascially "forced" to keep old content alive. And not tuck it into its own little corner with no touching points to the rest of the game.

Wasn't the biggest complaint about Bozja back then was the forced Ivalice raids?

[Alleo]

Wasn't the biggest complaint about Bozja back then was the forced Ivalice raids?

There were different complaints as far as I remember. Some did not like the amount of Ivalice raids (but at least you only had to do those once), others did not like how you could get the items faster outside of Bozja. Which imo just shows that for a group of people its nicer to just get it done with the same fates in the old zones than grinding in the new one.

Other complaints where that you still needed to do the bozja "dungeon" and could not do it outside of it which already raised the question if people in the future can even finish the weapons at all. Which is why I like the older relics more. There is no fear that I will ever be locked out of doing them because I can either unsynch the content or find people since its the regular duties.

[Vahlnir]

There were different complaints as far as I remember. Some did not like the amount of Ivalice raids (but at least you only had to do those once), others did not like how you could get the items faster outside of Bozja. Which imo just shows that for a group of people its nicer to just get it done with the same fates in the old zones than grinding in the new one.

Other complaints where that you still needed to do the bozja "dungeon" and could not do it outside of it which already raised the question if people in the future can even finish the weapons at all. Which is why I like the older relics more. There is no fear that I will ever be locked out of doing them because I can either unsynch the content or find people since its the regular duties.

Yep. Older relics were future proofed. Eureka and Bozja relics were not in any capacity.

[zabu]

Endwalker relic is just crap.
Really dont understand why you put relic quest behind Hilibrand.
Not everyone can get the humor
Not going to do it at all

Relic is entirely useless now, please make relic with some use on real battle plz

[Avatre]

Endwalker relic is just crap.
Really dont understand why you put relic quest behind Hilibrand.
Not everyone can get the humor
Not going to do it at all

Relic is entirely useless now, please make relic with some use on real battle plz

Welcome to the first step out of however many there will be(still unknown to the players after all). There will definitely be combat related parts of it. There ALWAYS is.

To be completely honest....they should do a relic that is just doing the books like in ARR. No changes other than every step of the way is completing those books, FATEs included. Let people sink their teeth into that, then see which is worse. Doing a step you can skip cutscenes/unsync trials, or having to wait for the right FATE to finally pop, along with all the need to do dungeons that don't happen as often.

[TheMightyMollusk]

Endwalker relic is just crap.
Really dont understand why you put relic quest behind Hilibrand.
Not everyone can get the humor

Not everyone enjoyed Eureka, Ivalice, or Bozja either.

[GTK0HLK]

as someone doing all of a zone has to offer..
the job armors took something like 3000protean, 750 Anemos(per job) armor set.<can't bother calculating, but for a weapon it was much less protean, and only needed 3 Paz on top of that per weapon, and no anemos>

then for pagos weapons zone, it was 500 Pagos, 5 Lou, 31 Frost.(x15 weapons, and you got a zone most will say to not do at once. but they do so, cause they care. I "coped" through all weapons at once with socializing in the zone)
making it 7500pagos, 75 lou ice, 465 Frost Protean.

for Relics, the grind can kick in, in any stage. though a low entry barrier of tomes is very appreciated, just as much as some appreciate the week delay on Savage.
[the fact you have to do Hildibrand, is not a obstacle, it's just content you've yet to complete. just like any other old content.]

[Knot_D]

The fact that Godbert made his manservants only wear smallcloth makes me love his empire so much...

[Zanarkand-Ronso]

The fact that Godbert made his manservants only wear smallcloth makes me love his empire so much...

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