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    Initially auto demo was turned off because of the (sometimes) hours long queue times to get into game at the launch of EW.
    That's not an issue any longer.
    Then it was turned on due to 'real world events' which everyone assumed to mean the war in Ukraine.
    But, if you're unable to access FF14 due to that, then I doubt that your main concern is a virtual house. I understand it sucks, but wars have been raging non stop for decades. Making everyone elses experience lesser for it, for more than half a year now (?) just doesn't make sense.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Shazzinoth View Post
    Initially auto demo was turned off because of the (sometimes) hours long queue times to get into game at the launch of EW.
    That's not an issue any longer.
    Then it was turned on due to 'real world events' which everyone assumed to mean the war in Ukraine.
    But, if you're unable to access FF14 due to that, then I doubt that your main concern is a virtual house. I understand it sucks, but wars have been raging non stop for decades. Making everyone elses experience lesser for it, for more than half a year now (?) just doesn't make sense.
    Everyone focuses on the Ukraine situation but there was more going on at the time. There was also a major earthquake in JP in March.

    No one is getting a lesser experience because demolition is suspended. Resuming demolition would only free up a couple of dozen houses per world compared to the 1000+ players trying to get one.

    They're getting a lesser experience because SE isn't taking adequate steps to solve supply problems.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Shazzinoth View Post
    Making everyone elses experience lesser for it, for more than half a year now (?) just doesn't make sense.
    With an ounce of compassion, it does.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Puksi View Post
    With an ounce of compassion, it does.
    6 months is more than long enough in my view and I have a house/houses so I don't have a personal stake in it. That war could last years and it could be said for many a natural disaster. It's time SE addressed the supply and stops with band aid fixes for a community that wants to participate in housing.
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    I'm sure the players who have lost everything in real life would love to trade places with ghouls who can only think of pixel housing in a video game. The hits just keep coming from Balmung lately.

    The demo timer IS a bandaid, you know. Once upon a time, Yoshida swore Square would never do that--he pointed out himself it's a cheap tactic that game companies used to keep subscriptions. Maybe the focus should be on the small indie company releasing new wards instead of hovering like vultures over something another player worked hard to earn, hoping their hardship will free it up for your convenience.

    Between this, the billboard, and the housing wall person enraged over the roof of a small peeking into their view, the disconnect from reality of this playerbase lately is boggling.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Puksi View Post
    I'm sure the players who have lost everything in real life would love to trade places with ghouls who can only think of pixel housing in a video game. The hits just keep coming from Balmung lately.
    I have characters on many servers for your information don't need to try and demean Balmung. My home server is Siren. Name calling isn't necessary and you seem to be worried more about them than those actually playing the game. So tell me if the war lasts 3 years should they halt demo for that long? How long is fine with you? 6 months is already more than fair in my view. Now maybe just try and be civil and not try and demean others with another point of view. And I have no stake in this matter I own houses already.
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    When someone says that the suffering of other players in real life is less important than a pixel house in a video game, that's not name-calling, that's accuracy.

    I would prefer the demo timers never come back, considering that is what was promised and that is what respects the time and effort that players put into getting a house. The players are not the problem. Square is, in their greed. The cheap tactic keeps players subbed despite the "caring" advice of Yoshida to take breaks. One of their biggest moneymakers, but somehow, it's still small indie company, please understand--while smaller MMOs have functional housing systems for all.

    But you want to punish people for tragedy beyond their control instead. Losing everything in real life isn't enough, take the pixel things, too!

    May you never be reduced to an inconvenience for ghouls who look at your pixel house and only care that it isn't theirs.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Puksi View Post
    But you want to punish people for tragedy beyond their control instead. Losing everything in real life isn't enough, take the pixel things, too!
    It's a game not real life. Demo timers are here for a reason people quit the game and never come back those assets need to go to people who are actually playing the game especially since they're limited. It would be nice if they had more than enough for everyone but they don't. Calling people names doesn't make you right. Pretty childish I might add and the demo timer will return at some point.

    Your arm chair activism is dually noted but certainly misdirected if you think reserving a house in a video game is that important. You're entitled to believe that demolition isn't warranted but with limited resources in a game like this it's something that is needed to allow those resources go to people actually playing the game. 6 months is more than generous in my view but we can certainly agree to disagree.

    Perhaps it's time for SE to own up to the fact that housing as implemented isn't something a good portion of their player back can partake in and perhaps it's more than time they address the issue by adding instanced houses alongside the ward system like other games have.
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    Quote Originally Posted by LaylaTsarra View Post
    It's a game not real life.
    Yet you're the one saying "tough luck they lost everything in real life, but people really, really need their pixel house and well, they just should've made sure they got it together faster." I'm not the one who needs their priorities sorted.

    It's nice to see this "great community" only cares so long as there's yellow and blue dye to sell on the MB and photo ops to show how great they are on social media. The hits really do keep coming.

    Edit: Ah, of course, "armchair activism". No. Personal experience. My husband and I still are not back to our real home after Florence, and we were the fortunate ones in our neighborhood. It doesn't take "armchair activism". Just a shred of common basic decency to want players from our great community to have their game lives still intact when they hopefully can return to it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Puksi View Post
    It's nice to see this "great community" only cares so long as there's yellow and blue dye to sell on the MB and photo ops to show how great they are on social media. The hits really do keep coming.
    Oh please cry us a river and stop trying to paint holding a house for people caught up in a war that could last years is what the team needs to do and anyone who disagrees with you somehow doesn't care about the war there or the people affected by it. I can guarantee you that those really affected by the war don't have their personal digital house in FFXIV as a priority concern. Your social activism is misplaced maybe spend some time trying to actually take care of people affected by the war in real life than trying to push an end to demolition here altogether.

    Quote Originally Posted by Jojoya View Post
    Everyone focuses on the Ukraine situation but there was more going on at the time. There was also a major earthquake in JP in March.
    No one is getting a lesser experience because demolition is suspended. Resuming demolition would only free up a couple of dozen houses per world compared to the 1000+ players trying to get one.
    They're getting a lesser experience because SE isn't taking adequate steps to solve supply problems.
    Yes it is about time that the dev team looked at other housing alternatives. The game population has grown to a point where adding more ward houses isn't going to satisfy the demand. Demolition certainly isn't going to solve that supply issue but doing away with it won't help those who can actually play the game.
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