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  1. #11
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    Denji's Avatar
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    Daddy Milkers
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    Behemoth
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    Marauder Lv 86
    I agree with most of this but when one race has 5 hairstyles and others have 30+ then yea the others should take the backburner for a few months like gheez.
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  2. #12
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    Shougun's Avatar
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    Wubrant Drakesbane
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    Balmung
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    Fisher Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Krotoan View Post
    People weren't LED. People did this to themselves. The Devs repeatedly said not to oversell it and have in no way insinuated it's instanced housing.
    I think they've had issues with managing expectations before, like Blue Mage, but they've been quite clear, I feel, with not overly selling Island Sanctuary as a panacea to all problems- things like on what they've been inspired by, even quite a few hints at what it might do, but also that it's not going to be a parity of what they were inspired by.

    I do, personally, have very high hopes for the content in the long run (believing it might be an avenue for many housing features)-- but that's the long run lol. For example if not done already I think it would be a smart, and reasonable, idea to add pre-fab home-kin options. Like a inn rooms in game already provide, allow players to build something like that. Perhaps add a few tiers or customization options. When possible improve this with greater and greater customization until it's basically instanced housing (but I no way expect that will be a thing at release). Or add weather, skybox, lighting, and such control- like you can give yourself an island in the sky Elpis vibe, or a Amaurot state park, or Azim steppe at the lake experience.

    Even if it never obtained instanced housing status I think I'd still like the idea of the content.. I also still think it could provide very strong housing-like vibe with never actually having very minute object placement (like adding pre-fab rooms / buildings). Though if it was Garrisons meets Wild Star in the end.. I'd be pretty freaking stoked lol.

    I mean... I wish we knew more about the system lol... but I don't think "oh kupo nuts, I have no idea what to expect". Unlike say the unfortunate "designed for solo play" slide and then talking about making the job limited because they wanted it to have the OP experience (but then failed to deliver on OP, initially- its quite OP now, meanwhile you basically HAD to play multiplayer to have a semi-interesting experience). Personally I felt mislead, and also just really disliked the implementation (at release).. Given that I feel they listened to feedback and lined the job up more with their initial vision statement it's grown on me (though I still have hopes that certain things will be improved, like new spells is great-- but I hope they revamp some older spells and perhaps add more layers of interactivity to most things, as I quite like that in the job when it works and I really like the idea of it working even better- like a Hades, Diablo 3, etc, experience with kit building).
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    Last edited by Shougun; 06-30-2022 at 11:51 PM.

  3. #13
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    Freiena's Avatar
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    Freiena Noirmetal
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    Famfrit
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    Summoner Lv 90
    There's glamor too. The chest expansion is only a temporary fix. I still have about 2 and a half retainers worth of glams I can't get rid of because I'm a hoarder and I have a problem lol, but in all seriousness. We really do need a new system that can let me delete and clean up all my retainers without losing my glam gears. I still wonder what's taking so long in fixing this issue. These temporary fixes will only extend the problem as we get tons of new gear for glamor.
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  4. #14
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    XiRon's Avatar
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    Xianthi Rongalla
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    Lamia
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    White Mage Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Denji View Post
    I agree with most of this but when one race has 5 hairstyles and others have 30+ then yea the others should take the backburner for a few months like gheez.
    Endlessly annoyed with people saying "we lost our patch new hurr bc hrothgar ;_;" like...you have 137 styles on the character creator screen not even adding all the Modern Aesthetes. What were hrothgar supposed to be just tickled pink every time they get ignored every patch?
    There was nothing stopping them making all the new options available in shb work for viera and hrothgar, absolutely nothing.
    "but covid" ok? And during covid they found time to create new models, hair, vocal data and emotes for male viera. They COULD HAVE worked on the additions to the game in shb instead but they chose not to so I dont really care for excuses anymore.
    Are hrothgar gonna get jack in 6.2? Viera(f) just got Lyses style so I feel safe assuming viera will get anything sparkly and new working for them.
    But they added two races in shb and one has been left to rot and it still cant even use all its 5.0 release racial hairs.
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  5. #15
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    Shougun's Avatar
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    Wubrant Drakesbane
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    Balmung
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    Fisher Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Freiena View Post
    There's glamor too. The chest expansion is only a temporary fix. I still have about 2 and a half retainers worth of glams I can't get rid of because I'm a hoarder and I have a problem lol, but in all seriousness. We really do need a new system that can let me delete and clean up all my retainers without losing my glam gears. I still wonder what's taking so long in fixing this issue. These temporary fixes will only extend the problem as we get tons of new gear for glamor.
    If I remember right WoW set aside a dedicated team for multiple years to make their system, with quite a large fund. Certainly the multi-thousand slot system they have is pretty cool, and wish we had something akin.. but I imagine it was a challenge to make. Not that I'm defending not adding it to the game lol. My mind is "if new MMO is coming that has this then w.e, if not - you really really should add this... sooner than later".

    I don't have experience with outsourcing such large tasks, but related to some of OP's points, I feel if it works.. it would be good to do the above and also Hroth / Viera work. Like we've modders who've mostly added content to the two races, it might not have been easy or quick but I have to imagine if fans are able to produce good results then giving a team the internal tools and telling them to get it done should be feasible, and this way you don't have to lose your internal talent to tasks that are probably considered fairly monotonous and not 'new' content generators.
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  6. #16
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    Daddy Milkers
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    Behemoth
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    Marauder Lv 86
    Quote Originally Posted by XiRon View Post
    Endlessly annoyed with people saying "we lost our patch new hurr bc hrothgar ;_;" like...you have 137 styles on the character creator screen not even adding all the Modern Aesthetes. What were hrothgar supposed to be just tickled pink every time they get ignored every patch?
    There was nothing stopping them making all the new options available in shb work for viera and hrothgar, absolutely nothing.
    "but covid" ok? And during covid they found time to create new models, hair, vocal data and emotes for male viera. They COULD HAVE worked on the additions to the game in shb instead but they chose not to so I dont really care for excuses anymore.
    Are hrothgar gonna get jack in 6.2? Viera(f) just got Lyses style so I feel safe assuming viera will get anything sparkly and new working for them.
    But they added two races in shb and one has been left to rot and it still cant even use all its 5.0 release racial hairs.
    every non-hroth/viera player being like:
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  7. #17
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    Quelia's Avatar
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    Quelia Triello
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    Goblin
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    Samurai Lv 90
    Don't forget about Blitzball. Still waiting on that.
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  8. #18
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    Princess Walk
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    Cactuar
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    Thaumaturge Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by aveyond-dreams View Post
    -A three-way civil war between Summoner players that is unlikely to ever be resolved until the remaining pantheon and associated abilities are added along with a Necromancer/Time Mage job that encapsulates whatever could be salvaged of the previous iteration.
    SMN has become so mind numbingly boring I'm still not over the shock at how anyone could design such a horrible playstyle. But I suppose it's at least better than what healers have...
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  9. #19
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    Rhea Seren
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    Twintania
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    Gunbreaker Lv 92
    I'll be happy if they just talk about like half of these points :P
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  10. #20
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    Jock Destroyer
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    Asura
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    Culinarian Lv 80
    I really want them to talk about Hrothgar first because of how sad their situation right now...
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