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  1. #91
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    Kyu-Momo's Avatar
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    Chime Ex
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    Absolutely yes.

    It should have been instanced to begin with to be honest. Their excuse for not having instanced housing was some nonsense about keeping the neighborhoods "alive" and having it feel "lived" in.
    Meanwhile, my housing ward is always empty. I think I've seen another person once in the past six months. xD

    Instanced housing all the way!
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  2. #92
    Player YukikoKurosawa's Avatar
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    Yukiko Kurosawa
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    Lamia
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    Black Mage Lv 90
    I play on I think the most populated server on Primal and have never seen another player in any ward since I started playing over a year ago who wasn't in my FC.
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  3. #93
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    Shibi's Avatar
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    Lala Felon
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    Zurvan
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    Gunbreaker Lv 80
    Quote Originally Posted by YukikoKurosawa View Post
    Why are some people incapable of comprehending that asking for instanced housing is not asking for the removal of existing wards? Why is this so extremely difficult to understand?
    You are talking about the same people who thought wards 19-24 meant 5 wards for personal use.

    Statistically, a large chunk of them will also believe that man and dinosaurs lived at the same time.
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    やはり、お前は……笑顔が……イイ

  4. #94
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    Oizen's Avatar
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    Alondite Ragnell
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    Why yes I would like to actually be able to get a house in the subscription based MMORPG Final Fantasy 14
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  5. #95
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    Rhela Tsurugi
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    Quote Originally Posted by DeNada View Post
    We already have instanced housing though, they are called apartments and FC chambers.

    Instead of devoting a ton of resources and man-hours rehauling the entire housing system which would end up alienating those who prefer the ward system, why not improve apartments instead which is less resource intensive and yet already available to all players with no fear of auto demolition?
    I mean, a lot of people are asking for that as well. If they made apartments actually equivalent to houses through spending gil to upgrade them to add more rooms, an outside area, etc, then I'd be fine with that as well. I think the majority of the people wanting instanced housing don't want any changes to the ward system and still let people have the opportunity to join that if they so please. As for the auto-demolitions, I disagree with the concept of them as a whole because it is essentially a FOMO system built into the game as a means of "fixing" supply issues at the cost of punishing players who want to take a break. I personally think you should be able to just sell your plot back to an NPC for the cost of purchasing it if you don't want the plot anymore and would rather have the gil.

    As for the waste of dev resources, if Island Sanctuaries turn into a glorified mini-game I'm sure a lot of people will ask why SE wasted countless man-hours on creating a whole new system of an instanced island instead of figuring out how to make instanced houses instead.
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  6. #96
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    fmonkey13's Avatar
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    Ryelee Antilles
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    Simple yes please. As long as all can have a true garden
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  7. #97
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    Fyrebrand's Avatar
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    Friel Wyndor
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    Siren
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    White Mage Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by DeNada View Post
    We already have instanced housing though, they are called apartments
    People asking for instanced housing are already aware that apartments exist. Apartments are terrible.

    Instead of devoting a ton of resources and man-hours rehauling the entire housing system which would end up alienating those who prefer the ward system...
    You can still have the ward system. If anything, instanced housing might actually lessen demand in the ward system, so more players could get what they want.

    ...why not improve apartments instead which is less resource intensive and yet already available to all players with no fear of auto demolition?
    If you improve apartments to the point that they offer the same features as housing, do you know what we would call that? INSTANCED HOUSING!
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  8. #98
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    Maeror Montealvo
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    Sargatanas
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    One aspect i would enjoy is something i found in an old game (Phantasy Star Online) The option to hang out in a dudgeon after completion. Should Instanced housing be a thing as proposed, one could see the use of in game dungeon assets as areas for homes/ scenery. Imagine being able to set a theme to your home in Dun Scaith, The Crystal Tower, or The Anti Tower.
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    "Nemo me impune lacessit."

  9. #99
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    Wubrant Drakesbane
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    Balmung
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    Quote Originally Posted by Alacran View Post
    One aspect i would enjoy is something i found in an old game (Phantasy Star Online) The option to hang out in a dudgeon after completion. Should Instanced housing be a thing as proposed, one could see the use of in game dungeon assets as areas for homes/ scenery. Imagine being able to set a theme to your home in Dun Scaith, The Crystal Tower, or The Anti Tower.
    I think most people just.. want.. a house that has good creative feature parity lol. But your post is where my dream of dream lies, dream of dreams- my greatest desires.

    FFXIV is LOADED with absolutely amazing locations. If they could allow us area control, either via ESO like formats or Wild Star or Rift like... Oh my lord.

    By loaded I mean loaded. SO many amazing locations and assets, and if you could foreseeably plop a house down in many of those (even if by lore it's a mirage, for some locations)----- freaking incredible.

    I've wanted this for a decade at this point lol. Plz.... Which I would add for people who are say 'you need to say what you want, etc, not just vaguely mutter' - I've posts on posts on posts with very high details of what I'd love to see, dating back essentially 10 years and they're quite consistent too so it's not like I'm uncertain (and usually incorporate honest feedback on potential compromises or long term paths to desires, which can include bringing apartment system up to greater speed or utilizing the Island Sanctuaries).

    The other extra tenant I have is that if everyone can have a house we can add more features and have a greater identity of impact, like currently many are annoyed at gardens, FC crafting, or whatever being locked behind the limited system, obviously getting a proper instanced system could fix that. But then, we could have 'more'. Like Wildstar did, or in some ways as I suggested earlier in the thread you might even consider it like Garrisons and Wild Star had a brain child. Also a dream desire of mine.

    So I think most commonly I see for people it's like 1. Fix the limited supply, instanced housing so we have infinite supply (at least per human) 2. Empower whatever system you use so it doesn't feel like a conciliatory reward (like making apartments equal to ward houses in features and creative expression).

    Then for myself, and some others, particularly those who've tasted the greener grass (which is greener, for housing systems at least- perhaps not for other things lol. Am here for a reason :P), is like 3. Add a way to control location either via multiple locations or via high powered customizations (like ESO vs Wild Star), and 4. Now that everyone can have one, add cool features to it, maybe it's not /mandatory/ but its gameplay backed value on top of emotional value.
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    Last edited by Shougun; 07-01-2022 at 03:47 AM.

  10. #100
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    Diego Rath
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    Louisoix
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    Dragoon Lv 90
    For me it would be ideal to have wards like the current style as well as an instanced option with identical functionality. People who like the community aspect could get a ward house while not preventing people that just want gardening, stables etc without the limitations of apartments to get a private house too.
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