Rewritten MSQ - Garlemald and EW

[Lauront]

Especially since, in this person's own words:

I said you weren't equipped and are uneducated, meaning you don't have the experience to understand why people like Endwalker.

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No need to read about Nietzsche or anyone, you just need empathy, but then again, Karens don't have any.

[anhaato]

They may be extreme but they're grounded in things seen often here. Expressing you like aspects of the game that the loud folks here hate is a quick way to get you crapped on. Or folks will just call your standards low or accuse you of holding the game back. Respect on these forums only seems to come when you agree with folks about what they dislike.

Just saying...anhaato is a prime contender for what I'm talking about, yet you don't see anyone who shares his thoughts calling him out for being toxic and disrespectful. I can only think of one reason why.

Oh I didn't even realize you namedropped me here, I just immediately scroll past your posts as soon as I see your icon. My response is; get out of the kitchen if you can't take the heat. Don't talk shit if you don't want the smoke. Joking ways of saying this aside, you cannot seriously expect to be treated with respect after you display a clear lack thereof in my direction from the jump. Or, let me guess, it's only ok for the superior story enjoyers to act in such a way to the inferior story haters?

[IkaraGreydancer]

Oh I didn't even realize you namedropped me here, I just immediately scroll past your posts as soon as I see your icon. My response is; get out of the kitchen if you can't take the heat. Don't talk shit if you don't want the smoke. Joking ways of saying this aside, you cannot seriously expect to be treated with respect after you display a clear lack thereof in my direction from the jump. Or, let me guess, it's only ok for the superior story enjoyers to act in such a way to the inferior story haters?

When did I talk shit though? You throw smoke at dang near EVERYONE who disagrees with you whether they're being respectful or not. Lets be real here. You continue to do this because as ive already said folks here co sign and agree with you. Folks calling people "ill equipped and uneducated" doesn't help worth anything but that stuff is immediately called out and piled on, yet the same isn't done on the ther side. Im not the only one to notice this.

Also where did I claim or even infer story enjoyers are superior and story dislikers are inferior? I'm not the one telling folks if they don't like the story they have crap tastes like others have said about story enjoyers. Your guess has no foundation.

[KizuyaKatogami]

They may be extreme but they're grounded in things seen often here. Expressing you like aspects of the game that the loud folks here hate is a quick way to get you crapped on. Or folks will just call your standards low or accuse you of holding the game back. Respect on these forums only seems to come when you agree with folks about what they dislike.

Just saying...anhaato is a prime contender for what I'm talking about, yet you don't see anyone who shares his thoughts calling him out for being toxic and disrespectful. I can only think of one reason why.

I just have to share my thoughts here. I find it extremely ironic you pointing out the whole “don’t see anyone who shares his thoughts calling him out.” You’re right, this is a pretty prominent problem however considering i’ve been on the opposite end of it i can say it’s not absent on either side. In fact i think i’ve seen it worse on the other side, where i’ll literally be insulted or worse, i’ll defend myself, and one of the people who supports the agitators arguments goes after me and calls me out and not the person who shares their views. As for everything else you’ve said, as i’ve brought up before, i think you’re the last person to be trying to correct or critique someone considering you’ve called people parasites and numerous posters have come forth as having problems with you.

[CrownySuccubus]

I just have to share my thoughts here. I find it extremely ironic you pointing out the whole “don’t see anyone who shares his thoughts calling him out.” You’re right, this is a pretty prominent problem however considering i’ve been on the opposite end of it i can say it’s not absent on either side. In fact i think i’ve seen it worse on the other side, where i’ll literally be insulted or worse, i’ll defend myself, and one of the people who supports the agitators arguments goes after me and calls me out and not the person who shares their views. As for everything else you’ve said, as i’ve brought up before, i think you’re the last person to be trying to correct or critique someone considering you’ve called people parasites and numerous posters have come forth as having problems with you.

Almost everybody in this thread, including yours truly, has had "numerous posters" that have problems with them. That's kind of the nature of forums where tribalism is common. Everybody gets the dogpiling eventually, whether deserved or not.

[Kuritzkale]

Almost everybody in this thread, including yours truly, has had "numerous posters" that have problems with them. That's kind of the nature of forums where tribalism is common. Everybody gets the dogpiling eventually, whether deserved or not.

You've posted 477 times since march?! Of course you have people that have problems with you, when you're posting multiple comments every day... cast a wider net and catch more fish, right?

[IkaraGreydancer]

I just have to share my thoughts here. I find it extremely ironic you pointing out the whole “don’t see anyone who shares his thoughts calling him out.” You’re right, this is a pretty prominent problem however considering i’ve been on the opposite end of it i can say it’s not absent on either side. In fact i think i’ve seen it worse on the other side, where i’ll literally be insulted or worse, i’ll defend myself, and one of the people who supports the agitators arguments goes after me and calls me out and not the person who shares their views. As for everything else you’ve said, as i’ve brought up before, i think you’re the last person to be trying to correct or critique someone considering you’ve called people parasites and numerous posters have come forth as having problems with you.

It doesnt exactly bother me that a few people here have issues with me. Plenty of others don't n I've actively told folks to put me on ignore. This whole deal is ofc a matter of perspective. Different folks will see and experience different things here. None are inherently wrong imo hence why I won't nor would tell you you're wrong in what you've experience here.

Also since you seem to like to bring it up, care to explain the context of why I called one person (not people) a parasite? Context means a great deal and you seem to always leave that out to make me look bad.

Also I challenge you, bring up every post that I've made a go at someone and do the same for a person ive mentioned. Compare the 2 and then tell me who is the worst offender here.

[CrownySuccubus]

You've posted 477 times since march?! Of course you have people that have problems with you, when you're posting multiple comments every day... cast a wider net and catch more fish, right?

It's...really not that much? Hell, I often go for days without actually posting.

Hell, the poster above my last post alone has 3,382 posts since Feb 2021. That's an average of 199 posts per month compared to my 119.

[TaleraRistain]

I just have to share my thoughts here. I find it extremely ironic you pointing out the whole “don’t see anyone who shares his thoughts calling him out.” You’re right, this is a pretty prominent problem however considering i’ve been on the opposite end of it i can say it’s not absent on either side. In fact i think i’ve seen it worse on the other side, where i’ll literally be insulted or worse, i’ll defend myself, and one of the people who supports the agitators arguments goes after me and calls me out and not the person who shares their views. As for everything else you’ve said, as i’ve brought up before, i think you’re the last person to be trying to correct or critique someone considering you’ve called people parasites and numerous posters have come forth as having problems with you.

It absolutely is on all sides (both isn't really relevant since there are sometimes multiple sides). That said, the message isn't any less true based on the messenger. There are instances where instead of debating in good faith, people just try to shout each other down. And that's just not constructive. Maybe we can all try to use this as a jumping off point to try to debate with each more in good faith.

[anhaato]

When did I talk shit though? You throw smoke at dang near EVERYONE who disagrees with you whether they're being respectful or not. Lets be real here. You continue to do this because as ive already said folks here co sign and agree with you. Folks calling people "ill equipped and uneducated" doesn't help worth anything but that stuff is immediately called out and piled on, yet the same isn't done on the ther side. Im not the only one to notice this.

Also where did I claim or even infer story enjoyers are superior and story dislikers are inferior? I'm not the one telling folks if they don't like the story they have crap tastes like others have said about story enjoyers. Your guess has no foundation.

I was talking about the person who was calling me uneducated, not you. But if you are here refusing to call out that sort of behavior on your own side, then your complaints about no one on my side calling me out ring hollow. I respond respectfully to people who speak respectfully to me, unfortunately people are rarely that. Just look through this thread and you'll see nothing but shade.