Rewritten MSQ - Garlemald and EW

[Knot_D]

Which, unfortunately, amounted to absolutely nothing. Not even one of the Scions being injured.

...Which is good? Why you want them get injured badly??

Another reason to leave lore in forum I guess...

[Theodric]

...Which is good? Why you want them get injured badly??

Another reason to leave lore in forum I guess...

The premise of the expansion was the second coming of the apocalypse. I think some meaningful character deaths and injuries would have made things feel genuinely dangerous and interesting instead of utterly predictable.

Even the scene where a blade is deflected right at the last possible second was straight out of the typical Hollywood movie - and I play fantasy games in the hope of a compelling story and deep narrative rather than for a lack of stakes.

[Rosenstrauch]

Which, unfortunately, amounted to absolutely nothing. Not even one of the Scions being injured.

It did give us a modern day rendition of the Tortoise and the Hare: The Paraplegic Corpsewalker and the Bodysnatching Prince.

EDIT: So I've been playing Mass Effect 3 for the first time.

And for the first time I got to witness the death of Thane Krios, watching him take on Kai Leng and actually fight him to a standstill, only to get gutted at the last second. I watched him slowly die in a hospital bed not long after, attended to by myself and his son, Kolyat. It was a genuinely beautiful scene that I won't ever forget, and elevated every single character involved. Even Kai Leng—a character so thoroughly reviled by the Mass Effect fandom for being a bit of a meme (he's a Metal Gear Solid/Rising cyborg ninja in a third person cover based shooter, with an insufferably smug attitude even though the game's combat system does not allow him to be even half as cool as he ought to be), but I hate him for all the right reasons now.

The tl;dr: Characters getting hurt or killed as a consequence of their or someone else's actions? That is an important spice for storytelling. And in my experience, it's only ever been the FFXIV community that's insisted otherwise.

[ArcaviusGreyashe]

As if we care what millions of people love. Just because it's popular doesn't mean it's good or that we have to like it.

Meanwhile the same people cry about Karens in every other aspect of their lives.

Not even complaining at this point, it's just ridiculous and pathetic.

[ArcaviusGreyashe]

Don't use swear words, brother, that just adds to my point.

You're not equipped to understand EW's scenario and want to change it to what you want, as if you know more about story writing than the average joe. That's a Karen. But it's alright, I don't want to argue with the likes of you anymore, i've tried and y'all are so stubborn and uneducated that' I don't care anymore, just bathe in that salt lake you created and enjoy the devs ignoring you as they should

[Theodric]

uneducated

I don't think that applies here. It's a video game and a particularly tropey and predictable one at that. There arguably also hasn't been much that could be considered bold or ground breaking in the story for quite some time.

[anhaato]

Don't use swear words, brother, that just adds to my point.

Nahhhh

You're not equipped to understand EW's scenario and want to change it to what you want, as if you know more about story writing than the average joe. That's a Karen.

Wow you're literally a strawman. "To be fair you have to have a high IQ to understand Endwalker-" OR have you tried accepting that people don't like it and getting over it? It's like you're talking yourself out of a panic attack every time you prattle on about how much "smarter" you are than us because you like it. I don't need to be a chef to know when food is bad, I don't need to be a writer to know when a story is bad. If someone wants to fantasize about how they wish the story panned out, what's it to you? A Karen is an entitled white woman, not someone taking it upon themselves to write some fanfiction because they were unsatisfied.

But it's alright, I don't want to argue with the likes of you anymore, i've tried and y'all are so stubborn and uneducated that' I don't care anymore, just bathe in that salt lake you created and enjoy the devs ignoring you as they should

LMAOOO UNEDUCATED let me guess, next you're gonna tell me that I need to read Nietzsche or some shit to ~understand the themes~ of this shounen anime-level slice of life story. I like how you pretend that you've been some sort of keyboard warrior in defense of Endwalker with your superior wit and intellect, when the most I've seen you do is FAFO trying to provoke people in the criticism megathread. If you can't handle that then I can't take you or your high horse seriously. But anyways, if that's the case, why are you even here?

[Rulakir]

Endwalker is basically r/Im14andthisisdeep the expansion. The fact that people actually consider it somehow 'high brow' never ceases to amaze me.

[ArcaviusGreyashe]

A Karen is an entitled white woman, not someone taking it upon themselves to write some fanfiction because they were unsatisfied.

Wouldn't that be the definition of entitled, tho, thinking you could write a better story ?

LMAOOO UNEDUCATED let me guess, next you're gonna tell me that I need to read Nietzsche or some shit to ~understand the themes~ of this shounen anime-level slice of life story. I like how you pretend that you've been some sort of keyboard warrior in defense of Endwalker with your superior wit and intellect, when the most I've seen you do is FAFO trying to provoke people in the criticism megathread.

Here's the catch : I never said y'all were stupid. I said you weren't equipped and are uneducated, meaning you don't have the experience to understand why people like Endwalker. I never said it was brilliant storywriting, but it's decent enough, and it speaks about mental health, has grey characters all around, and that's more than what you'd ask of the average MMORPG. No need to read about Nietzsche or anyone, you just need empathy, but then again, Karens don't have any.

I'm not provoking anyone, just reacting accordingly, but if that makes you feel better, sure, have me as the bad guy in your next fantasy...

[Knot_D]

I'm not provoking anyone, just reacting accordingly, but if that makes you feel better, sure, have me as the bad guy in your next fantasy...

If you are defending Venat in this forum, they will begin to attack you in every direction and keep explaining why Venat bad Emet good. It's useless to discuss EW lore in this forum...