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    Quote Originally Posted by Damnhedge View Post
    The devs don't even try and justify Venat and her sweeping decision to Sunder the world, but these people will try and justify Emet-Selch deciding that an entire 14 Worlds worth of Civilizations isn't worth it anymore because "They aren't as advanced and cool us as.
    The game portrays Emet-Selch as a gray character that you can agree with if you choose. It's also very possible to disagree with him and still have the story support your viewpoint. This is not true for Venat. Ironically, the ONLY person to say what she did was wrong was Venat herself, but even that gets brushed away when every other character swoops in and says: "No mommy Hydaelyn, you did great! Your choice was objectively amazing and those evil meanie convocation members with their stupid Zodiark are losers compared to you!" If you disagree with Venat, you're in direct conflict with EVERY character in this game other than the Ascians.

    Quote Originally Posted by Damnhedge View Post
    Venat didn't sunder the world because of some hatred for Humanity, or OP's weird psychopathic head canon of her. She did it because she took Meteion's words to heart and saw that the Ancients were doomed to destruction no matter if they found another way to stop the Final Days.
    True and untrue. She didn't do it out of malice. She did it because she was stupid. And OP wrote her that way because they took a different direction to the story. Here's a question: Have we ever met Hydaelyn herself (not one of her minions) before Endwalker? No, thus OP can take her in whichever direction they want because they are doing a rewrite. And honestly, having her like that is better than what we got. At least in OP's version she's intellegent, cunning, and has a sound plan. In canon, she's a complete idiot, sundering everything because "y u no suffer more?". She never even told anyone about the threat they actually faced. Did she not consider that if she did, things might have turned out differently?

    Quote Originally Posted by Damnhedge View Post
    People have always weirdly mistrusted Hydaelyn ... And over the last 10 years of playing FFXIV, I've seen every excuse under the sun why she's evil. "She Tempered us" "We're a Primal she made" etc etc. All of which absolutely ignore the game's story and were weird from the get go.
    Yes, and all of those were based on the big fat nothing we actually knew about her. We'd never met her in person and all we knew about her was second-hand knowledge. (and all of that was from either people who knew nothing about the real Hydaelyn, or her servants who obviously love her) As for why she helped us against Ultima, if the Ascians are her enemy, and we're fighting the Ascians...

    Now we actually have a story with her in it to base our claims off of. And she's not the hero the game has spent 10 years (including EW) trying to portray her as, she's just as stupid and bad as Hermes.

    Quote Originally Posted by Knot_D View Post
    Clearly you don't read my post, at all.
    Oh I did. And what I said stands.
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    Last edited by AwesomeJr44; 06-27-2022 at 03:34 PM.