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    Eorzea or Etheirys?

    the realm we currently exist in...which is it's name?
    I've heard multitudes of people say Eorzea, but i've also been seeing far more mention towards Etheirys of late in the story...sooo which is it?

    From what i've seen in terms of maps and lore references, Eorzea isn't even the realm per say, it's the region of the planet we're on. Aldenard, lslabard & Othard.
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    Eorzea: The main realm we live in

    Aldenard: The continent which Eorzea is in (Yes this part is confusing)

    Hydaelyn/Etheirys: The name of the planet
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kranel_San View Post
    Aldenard: The continent which Eorzea is in (Yes this part is confusing)
    It's actually the other way around. Aldenard is the name of the continent, but "Eorzea" includes Aldenard, Vylbrand (the island where La Noscea is located) and also noted in the lorebook to include the Cieldales and other smaller islands.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Iscah View Post
    It's actually the other way around. Aldenard is the name of the continent, but "Eorzea" includes Aldenard, Vylbrand (the island where La Noscea is located) and also noted in the lorebook to include the Cieldales and other smaller islands.
    Is there a difference between Vylbrand and La Noscea? That's the most confusing geographical distinction for me. Eorzea is a region consisting of different landmasses, like Oceania, and I find that easy to remember.

    But Vylbrand is just that island. And every part of that island is called X "La Noscea". Its like saying Madagascar is also called something else simultaneously. Situation of an old name vs a new name, maybe? Or does Vylbrand actually include something besides the La Noscean area?

    And Aldenard is pretty clearly africa, with Madagascar (Vylbrand) on the left instead of the right, imo. And Merycidia is australia. Hingashi is Japan, etc. I mean, culturues don't necessarily line up, but just geography-wise, they basically made Sharlayan the british isles, sank europe or squished it, left a lot of asia basically the same. Oh and south america is HUGE, now. lol I'm rather curious what culture they'll add to north america. And what cultures they'll add to the reflections. I'm hoping Emet's "some of the civilizations on the reflections will surprise you" means a super advanced society somewhere and I'd like north america to get something cool, even if its not on the source.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Alleluia View Post
    Is there a difference between Vylbrand and La Noscea? That's the most confusing geographical distinction for me. Eorzea is a region consisting of different landmasses, like Oceania, and I find that easy to remember.

    But Vylbrand is just that island. And every part of that island is called X "La Noscea". Its like saying Madagascar is also called something else simultaneously. Situation of an old name vs a new name, maybe? Or does Vylbrand actually include something besides the La Noscean area?
    All the parts of the island that we visit are called La Noscea, but I assume the kobolds' area extends northwards from the border zone in outer La Noscea.

    I do think the game tends to have confusing layers of names, particularly when the city names overlap with the surrounding regions.


    Quote Originally Posted by Alleluia View Post
    And Aldenard is pretty clearly africa, with Madagascar (Vylbrand) on the left instead of the right, imo. And Merycidia is australia. Hingashi is Japan, etc. I mean, culturues don't necessarily line up, but just geography-wise, they basically made Sharlayan the british isles, sank europe or squished it, left a lot of asia basically the same. Oh and south america is HUGE, now.
    Take a map of Europe, turn it 90 degrees, east upwards. Now consider Norse-themed dragons in the northwest, apparently Turkish-influenced Ala Mhigo in the northeast, a large island in the southwest, central European forest, arid south perhaps stretching across to incorporate some of the Sahara desert.

    Eorzea is Europe with creative liberties.

    Meanwhile, Meracydia has African plants and animals (aloe, sesame, hippos) while Australian animals are not credited to it.

    For North America, we know the Native American themed Whalaqee tribe from the blue mage quests. Mamool Ja appear to be "Mayincaztec" as TV Tropes phrases it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Iscah View Post
    Meanwhile, Meracydia has African plants and animals (aloe, sesame, hippos) while Australian animals are not credited to it.
    Actually, Aussie animals are credited to Meracydia as well, well, at least one is (the wind-up kangaroo minion description mentions it's based on a "Meracydian marsupial") - whether the Ittybitty Duckbill, Frill-necked Lizard and Koala Joey specifically come from there too also isn't mentioned though (although the koala and duckbill are also seen in Elpis so that means like most of Hydaelyn's modern wildlife the Ancients created them originally -amusingly the minion description for the Koala Joey seems to suggest it's found in Eorzea given it "dropped down onto a retainer who was cutting down it's tree").

    Also I understand wattle bark can be found via BTN gathering in Azys Lla (wattle being an Australian native tree of course), and the dragon sector of that was literally lifted wholesale from Meracydia, so it's basically all but proven Meracydia is a "great south land owing more to Australia but has some elements of Africa as well" (it isn't shaped like Australia though, apparently being roughly triangular in shape according to the Hydaelyn model seen from the moon).

    I still think Aldenard is roughly Africa in shape, but culturally is more Europe/Middle Eastern than anything. But I digress.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Alleluia View Post
    Is there a difference between Vylbrand and La Noscea? That's the most confusing geographical distinction for me. Eorzea is a region consisting of different landmasses, like Oceania, and I find that easy to remember.

    But Vylbrand is just that island. And every part of that island is called X "La Noscea". Its like saying Madagascar is also called something else simultaneously. Situation of an old name vs a new name, maybe? Or does Vylbrand actually include something besides the La Noscean area?
    Vylbrand is the big island. There are smaller islands around it which are included in La Noscea. On the map of Eastern La Noscea, you can see small islands near Costa Del Sol. On the map of Western La Noscea, the Isles of Umbra. In Lower La Noscea, Moraby Drydocks are on a separate island connected to Vylbrand by the bridge at Oschon's Embrace. Limsa Lominsa is entirely off the coast of Vylbrand except for the city gates.
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    I was under the impression that Eorzea was the combination of Aldenard and Vylbrand
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    Quote Originally Posted by Guhthaerz View Post
    I was under the impression that Eorzea was the combination of Aldenard and Vylbrand
    Aldenard is basically the Far East e.g. Hingashi, Kugane.
    Eorzea is Vylbrand (where Limsa is) and the rest of Eorzea itself (Ul'dah, Gridania, Ishgard, Ala Mhigo), and though we can't 100% see due to the clouds, seems that Ala Mhigo area could connect to Ilsabard where Garlemald is.
    Hmm.
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    Quote Originally Posted by AlenyaElizabelle View Post
    Aldenard is basically the Far East e.g. Hingashi, Kugane.
    Eorzea is Vylbrand (where Limsa is) and the rest of Eorzea itself (Ul'dah, Gridania, Ishgard, Ala Mhigo)
    Not at all. You're getting your locations scrambled – even though the correct information has been discussed several times through the thread already.

    Aldenard is the mainland continent where most of the Eorzean nations are located.

    Othard is the far eastern continent.
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