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    Quote Originally Posted by Dzian View Post
    if you scrapped them entirely nothing would really change. especially with how many bosses already have none.
    considering the current "endgame" bosses we have, let's see:

    Savage: out of all 5 fights, only P2S has no positionals
    EX Trials: only Hydaelyn has positionals, so okay, fair
    Ultimate: DSR has two phases with no positionals (eyes, a very short phase that really doesn't need them, and double dragons). UCoB, UWU and TEA all have positionals in every phase, and they should obviously be still considered high end content

    so, out of every single piece of high end content out right now, three fights have no positionals, i'll give you three and a half if you want to count the DSR phases. what do you make of this? are you sure "many bosses already have none"?

    I'll agree with you that positionals have little impact and that they will hardly make a difference on whether someone clears a fight or not, I don't think the dps loss is as small as you make it out to be but it's not huge either, but still. IMO positionals should indeed have more impact so that one could show that they can play their job and have spent the time mastering over someone who doesn't. I don't think someone who just picked up Monk should be able to be pretty much on par with someone who put in the work to play it properly and learn how to work around the job's quirks (which, until Shadowbringers, was the fact that it had a positional on every single one of its GCD combos). sadly, it seems like square doesn't agree with this vision
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    Last edited by hfang; 06-25-2022 at 10:49 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by hfang View Post
    are you sure "many bosses already have none"?
    yup. on top of what you've already mentioned..

    6.0
    Smiloton. 1st and lass boss no positionals
    Stigma dreamscape last boss
    Tower of bail. last boss
    Atila scope. last boss

    5.0
    Castrum and DR (Bozja)
    Paradigms breach big tree thing no posiitonals half the 3rd and 4th boss fights no positionals.
    Copied factory second boss, third boss
    Puppets bunker, 1st boss, part of last boss
    Amareut, last boss
    mt gulg second boss, mini boss,
    cloud deck diamond weapon
    e3s
    e7s

    thats what i can remember from current and the last expansion. there was quite a few in 4.0 as well.
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