UI Mods Lawsuit

[Johners]

All of these lawsuits are targeting people selling mods/cheats/whatever that negatively impact the game. It’s mostly impacting people making millions on aim bots, automation tools etc. These tools do also exist for Final Fantasy XIV, Square Enid seemingly doesn’t go after them directly though. Not to mention these other games listed as examples, such as Destiny 2 or World of Warcraft, have client side anti-cheat mechanisms that are also used to prevent unapproved modifications to the game.

[BristolRuss]

Yoshi's stance on it. They aren't going to go after users. The only people they could and should go after are the people who are making botting programs.

https://gamerescape.com/2014/02/12/p...naoki-yoshida/

"GE: Recently, there has been noise from players about parsers, mods and third-party applications being used with Final Fantasy XIV: A Realm Reborn and about people getting warned, suspended or even banned by GMs for using such applications. There was also mention of a plug-in API for the game. We were wondering what the policy was, your stance on it, and how you were approaching these issues. Some players are a bit worried and don’t want to get banned.

Yoshida: This is a very difficult question to answer. We are first and foremost a software company, and as a software company we cannot really approve of anyone modifying our product in any way. We would prefer it if everyone played within the original design of the software, otherwise we can’t really guarantee the quality of the product itself. Officially, the policy is that any additions or modification to the game are against the rules and privacy policy and when playing our game, everyone has to have gone through the steps to agree to the Terms and Conditions when you sign up.

However, I too am a hardcore PC gamer so I understand that there are a lot of plug-ins and add-ons available to many games. So as a PC gamer, all I can really say is “Please, don’t get caught.” If you are going to use add-ons and plug-ins please be discrete about it. Don’t go around telling your friends you mod the game on chat, or ask a GM if using such an add-on is ok. We can’t really go around and check if add-ons and plug-ins will work with our game and debug it, and check that it doesn’t break anything – its too much. Really what it comes down to is I can’t really say “Yes” to these things, and players have to realize that by using an application that accesses game files that they are the ones that are assuming the risk of viruses and possibly compromising their account.

And as you probably know, Final Fantasy XI had a particularly strict policy on this kind of thing, so there are quite a few players out there who moved from XI to XIV who definitely view any kind of add-on to the game as bad. So please, just be discrete if you will be using tools or add-ons."

[Raoabolic]

And as you probably know, Final Fantasy XI had a particularly strict policy on this kind of thing, so there are quite a few players out there who moved from XI to XIV who definitely view any kind of add-on to the game as bad. So please, just be discrete if you will be using tools or add-ons."

The "Great Salvage Ban™" was amazing. We need one of those in this game with the eureka bots.

[Jagick]

If TempusFinis isn't currently working in Nintendo's legal department, they clearly missed their calling in life.

[SweetestLily]

So you want everyone using the quick launcher to be sued? Cause that's the most important issue plaguing this game right now.

[Raoabolic]

So you want everyone using the quick launcher to be sued? Cause that's the most important issue plaguing this game right now.

Why not? Nintendo sued people who leaks strategy guides, it would be funny if SE sued people who used a launcher that actually saves your password, lol.

[Chie_M]

I mean, they could for sure go after Miqobot, but bet OP's talking about Dalamud and TexTools lmao.

[Amenara]

Your thoughts?

I just ate some popcorn and it tasted good. Thanks for the trolling entertainment.

[IckeDerTyp]

My thoughts are that people should stop acting stupid and like as if anything has changed at all.
The stance has always been that they don't endorse or approve of any of it, and that you're not allowed to *advertise* it ( which is why some people got banned/ warned, the rest were just blatantly cheating while recording their own evidence against themselves ).
And with advertising it means telling people what you're using and how awesome it is and where to get it.

Don't cheat, it should be fairly obvious to anyone who's being even a tad bit intellectually honest what cheating entails.
And if you're gonna use QoL stuff then just use it in silence and don't start advertising it to people.
Do this and you'll be fine.



Are they really tho?
Have we learned nothing from WoW?

What happened to WoW with addons is why the devs have the stance that they have.
The reality is that when they become normalized it no longer becomes a personal decision it becomes an expectation.

This is ofc in a generalized sense, I'd agree with stuff like chat bubbles but not at all with the more gameplay-oriented ones.

You really believe mods made wow into what it became? That was the people playing, not third party software.

Gearscore was a thing for people way before we even had official item levels and/or r.io or whatever the current craze is

We'll survive a few mods if we keep being nice and understanding to eachother :3