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    Quote Originally Posted by Vencio View Post
    ^this,

    The current state of the apartment isn’t really an “apartment” but a bachelor’s single unit/room.

    1) Highly limited capacity
    2) placing furniture is stressing & tricky due to being careful about size & not overlapping over other objects
    3) unintentionally you end up cluttering with far too many furniture around; OCD trigger

    What OP & the person above mention, please take into account on how it could be improved & I believe this may bring in player’s interests apart from house competition lotter.
    I disagree
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    And how does your “apartment” picture speaks volume in regards to my point?

    Be more specific
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    Quote Originally Posted by Vencio View Post
    And how does your “apartment” picture speaks volume in regards to my point?

    Be more specific
    It aint limited, it aint cramped, and it wasnt tricky to do.
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    My retainers bring back enough housing stuff within a week to fill a current regular apartment / FC apartment.

    If you enjoy them that's great and I'm honestly happy for you, but when folks cannot reasonably acquire a small house SE is gating that content.

    It needs to be fixed through instanced housing, larger apartments or whatever to allow all players reasonable access to an advertised feature.

    I mean come on. If you're house shopping and the pictures are of a nice little one story villa, and you arrive and it's a 10 story apartment complex...? That's false advertising.

    I'm surprised somebody has not filed a lawsu....nevermind.
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    Quote Originally Posted by FuraMal View Post
    My retainers bring back enough housing stuff within a week to fill a current regular apartment / FC apartment.

    If you enjoy them that's great and I'm honestly happy for you, but when folks cannot reasonably acquire a small house SE is gating that content.

    It needs to be fixed through instanced housing, larger apartments or whatever to allow all players reasonable access to an advertised feature.

    I mean come on. If you're house shopping and the pictures are of a nice little one story villa, and you arrive and it's a 10 story apartment complex...? That's false advertising.

    I'm surprised somebody has not filed a lawsu....nevermind.
    Is it though? If they consider apt housing (which is IS housing)
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    Quote Originally Posted by FuraMal View Post
    I mean come on. If you're house shopping and the pictures are of a nice little one story villa, and you arrive and it's a 10 story apartment complex...? That's false advertising.

    I'm surprised somebody has not filed a lawsu....nevermind.
    The game advertisement isn't saying "we are selling this specific house". It's saying that housing is part of the game and providing a sample of what's included in the system.

    There's no false advertising going on. There is no promise being made that a player will be able to obtain that specific house.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jojoya View Post
    The game advertisement isn't saying "we are selling this specific house". It's saying that housing is part of the game and providing a sample of what's included in the system.

    There's no false advertising going on. There is no promise being made that a player will be able to obtain that specific house.
    Perhaps not a specific house by the beach but their advertising in my language literally says I can build my own house (construisez votre maison). It doesn’t say “decorate your dwelling”. It refers specifically to a house and shows the picture of a house. Those that have a house can also own an apartment (which is just a medium sized room)
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    Last edited by Toutatis; 06-25-2022 at 03:26 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Toutatis View Post
    Perhaps not a specific house by the beach but their advertising in my language literally says I can build my own house (construisez votre maison)
    That graphic is weird, and is clearly a point of community contention the localisation team should try and correct. It's very much a misleading "perfect Hamburger" ad.

    Like the English, the French is missing the "tu peux même aménager ta propre chambre" which the German and Japanese versions have. The English even suggests you can become a "Realm Renowned Artisan" lol 'sif. The French at least is "fabriquez toute sortes d'objets", the German "Craft and sell your own items", the Japanese "Make items as a craftsman"
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    Quote Originally Posted by FuraMal View Post
    My retainers bring back enough housing stuff within a week to fill a current regular apartment / FC apartment..
    There's a point you gotta start selling those Bom Bokos. 120gil each to the Domans. Not sure what they do with them though.

    Otherwise, for the maybe 5 a week furniture items (I doubt you get 100 furniture items a week), marketboard rather than hoard. You can always re-make or buy one back later.
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    Last edited by Shibi; 06-25-2022 at 10:13 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Vencio View Post
    And how does your “apartment” picture speaks volume in regards to my point?

    Be more specific
    You realize you had a bit of a contradiction with your points. First you complain about limited capacity then you complain that too many items will trigger a response from OCD.

    Your second point about having to be cautious about not overlapping also makes no sense. Some of the most highly praised housing designs (even in apartments) involve overlapping items to create an appearance not otherwise possible.

    It's not size that determines what is or isn't an apartment. A apartment is a unit within a multi-family residential building where the building has a single owner but each unit has separate residents. The unit can be a single room, multiple rooms, or even an entire floor of the building. What we have would still be considered apartments.

    Most of us would be in agreement that increasing the size of apartments would make them more desirable to more players. We should continue to ask SE to update the system.

    But until such time as SE does something, we need to work with what's available.
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