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    PredatoryCatgirl's Avatar
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    Khara Relanah
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    Thank you, lottery

    I refused to placard spam because I didn't want to bot and didn't want to spend 8 hours of my life in this game not actually playing it. I was never going to get a personal under the old system. I got one under this one.

    No, lottery doesn't solve the supply problem, but its a godsend for anyone who actually has a life outside this game. Its a much smaller turd sandwich than the old system, and I thank SE for implementing it.
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    Player YukikoKurosawa's Avatar
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    Yukiko Kurosawa
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    Good for you.
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    Macleod's Avatar
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    Elric Ashmore
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    I'd rather camp a placard. I've lost 3 lotteries on medium houses, and I haven't checked yet, but there's probably none left now in any of the areas' personal wards. Every lottery cycle that goes by gets worse and worse, as fewer and fewer houses are available, and more and more people bidding on the smaller number of what's left.
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  4. #4
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    Chadhadai Oronir
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    In a lottery system like this one, every success story is only possible because hundreds of other people lost and feel like crap. This number will grow larger with time.
    We need more wards at this point. Even that is just a bandaid, but it's better than nothing and it's something square has shown they can actually do in the past. Failing even this, I think just communicating with players about the situation would go a long way. Since there are people pulling interview statements from like 2015 to back up what they believe about SE in 2022. If Square sat down and just did a live letter and dedicated even 10 minutes of it to explaining why the system is crap in current-year and what, if anything, they plan to do about it, I think a LOT of people would just shut up and understand or at the very least stop hoping for better.
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    Last edited by Avoidy; 06-10-2022 at 03:33 PM.

  5. #5
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    XiaoShengwu's Avatar
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    Saito Soji
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    Quote Originally Posted by Avoidy View Post
    In a lottery system like this one, every success story is only possible because thousands of other people lost and feel like crap.

    So you're going to make a negative response to someone sharing their success story, in an attempt to make them feel bad about finally accomplishing something? shame on you.
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    Quote Originally Posted by XiaoShengwu View Post
    So you're going to make a negative response to someone sharing their success story, in an attempt to make them feel bad about finally accomplishing something? shame on you.
    It's not negative or positive, it's just the truth. OP is praising this system (barely; even op admits it's "a smaller turd sandwich" than what we had before) because she gained from it. Most people didn't though.
    If you want to keep being offended for other people though, I won't stop you.
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  7. #7
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    Julianna Arrisit
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    Quote Originally Posted by XiaoShengwu View Post
    So you're going to make a negative response to someone sharing their success story, in an attempt to make them feel bad about finally accomplishing something? shame on you.
    Avoidy does have a valid point too. It is a bandaid for the real issues. Sure lottery is better of the two evils, but it's not even close to touching the underlying issue with housing. I feel the OP came to gloat just a wee bit to the naysayers when it comes to FFA vs Lottery. Which is also a shame because they are just that small 1% of success stories that are out there currently, when there's still thousands still trying to land a house themselves and are being pushed out because of availability. Nothing shameful in pointing out that lottery vs FFA is not the real issue, because it's obvious what is the issue. Sorry you don't get it.
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  8. #8
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    Quote Originally Posted by Arazehl View Post
    Avoidy does have a valid point too. It is a bandaid for the real issues. Sure lottery is better of the two evils, but it's not even close to touching the underlying issue with housing. I feel the OP came to gloat just a wee bit to the naysayers when it comes to FFA vs Lottery. Which is also a shame because they are just that small 1% of success stories that are out there currently, when there's still thousands still trying to land a house themselves and are being pushed out because of availability. Nothing shameful in pointing out that lottery vs FFA is not the real issue, because it's obvious what is the issue. Sorry you don't get it.
    Thank you. Really rustles my jimmies that this guy didn't even read the rest of my post, which was quite constructive.
    I'm posting here under the (probably faulty) assumption that sooner or later someone who can affect change in this game will read this section and take player feedback into account. The lottery system is terrible. The system before it was also terrible. A lot of people have already pointed these things out. But if someone's literally going to make a new thread that's just like "I think this system is fine because I won," then I think it's necessary to point out the obvious counterbalance so nobody important reads this thread and thinks people are okay with things as they currently stand. As for OP's feelings, I'd assume she wouldn't mind being told that other people had to lose, since she ventured into a forum full of losers to boast about winning in the first place. She's probably too busy having fun with her new house to care about what I post anyway.

    People literally ignore the substance of a post and zoom in on the dumbest stuff, it boggles my mind. More wards. More communication. This is what I want. This is what a lot of other people want too. Okay bye now.
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  9. #9
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    Y'sira Kurai
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    I think it's pretty sad personally that many people were excited for Ishgard and a new housing district only to find that only 25 percent of the wards were allocated private and that only 24 wards were added with no new wards added anywhere else. Not that it would have solved the problem but a minimum of 30 wards per housing district would have helped the supply a bit.

    I also think the FC allocation/split and the decision to go with FC only wards was a mistake. FC purchases have been abused for so long and still are and the current restrictions are only enabling the creating of solo FC's in order to get a house which defeats the entire purpose or intent of what a FC is about in my view. Given that decision enabling ward divisions should have applied to the first lottery or two and not what will probably be in effect until 6.2 hits. By then most if not all housing will be gone.

    One can hope with the addition of new servers for data center expansion we'll also see a boost to the number of wards everywhere. A statement of what to expect with housing should at the least be communicated when it comes to how they are going to deal with the supply. They have to have some concrete numbers now as to how many people want housing. When 288+ people bid on a small in Balmung in round 3 that says something and this is only going to get worse. One person won that house but 287 people lost.
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    Last edited by LaylaTsarra; 06-10-2022 at 05:20 PM.

  10. #10
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    Lala Felon
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    Zurvan
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    Quote Originally Posted by LaylaTsarra View Post
    A statement of what to expect with housing should at the least be communicated when it comes to how they are going to deal with the supply.
    As there will be zero FCs on the new servers I think it will follow the same, now established pattern.

    90 or so days with zero housing, all cities locked out - including the housing area unlock quests.

    Then 1-18 for FC purchases for a scant few more than 4 cycles to give FCs a chance to form, grind to 6, and buy a house.

    We don't know the upper limit yet on FC weighted cycles for a new server, but on Materia (like everyone really) it's been three with the fourth coming and no talk of rebalancing yet.

    I think this will continue for JP/NA/EU new servers too.
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    Last edited by Shibi; 06-10-2022 at 05:06 PM.

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