"I don't want to think while I play, so no one should be allowed to."

[pikalovr]

This.

SO MUCH THIS.

I've said this a lot, so yeah, I agree.

The funny thing is, the people wanting the hard jobs "to be challenged" get mad if you suggest letting them have what they want. I've suggested making SCH and AST "complex" healers with all the DPS stuff they want to "not be bored" while leaving WHM and SGE the same as today, and AST/SCH doing no more damage than WHM/SGE, just having to put in more work.

Instantly the argument goes from "we just don't want to be bored" to "we should be rewarded for our harder work...even though it's work we're literally asking for".

Then you see arguments like this thread calling anyone bad or lacking competence if they aren't good with (or just don't enjoy) DPS rotations.

The truth is, these people are elitists that want to lock other people out of content. The "boredom" argument is a canard, and always has been. If it wasn't, they'd jump at the chance of having a couple complex Jobs in each role to play so they wouldn't be bored. And if they thought they WERE really the majority of the player base - as they insist they are - they'd jump at this because what better way to prove it than the statistics showing all the people swapping from WHM/SGE to AST/SCH because EVERYONE loves complex challenge?

...but I think the reality is, we all know people would swap FROM the complex TO the simple, and then the OP and those like them would complain that the simple Jobs being able to match their DPS is unfair and "bads" are allowed to do content (the horror!) and how every Job needs to be punishing to prevent people who aren't them from enjoying the game or being competent at clearing content.

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I think the truth is that FFXIV is where it is and is not very likely to change to suit them anyway. But it'd be nice if they dropped the canards and just fully embraced what they want - a game with elites standing atop the Orgrimmar bank in full Tier 3 with the masses of "lesser" players gawking at them in "awe".

...that has never really been FFXIV outside of a few achievements and mounts, and it's unlikely it ever will be. And thank god for that. FFXIV has never been Dark Souls, and it's never been as toxic as games like WoW. I think most people prefer it stay that way.

hmm yes effort equal reward hmm yes this foreign concept tot he average XIV player apparently it's almost as if games reward you for going for more difficult things or rewards you for putting int he time or effort to find ways to cheese the game and make it easier. no no this isn't a game after all that's proposterous