"I don't want to think while I play, so no one should be allowed to."

[Silver-Strider]

Hearing Impairment

I swear the people that write these arguments really need to get over themselves. We get it, you aren't skilled enough to manage 2 DoTs or even something as simple as a WAR's rotation on a Healer. The rest of us, however, have long since mastered those skills and got shafted by the constant removal of skills from healers over the years.

It has nothing to do with wanting 7-8 DPS skills and everything to do with wanting something to do beyond spamming 1 all day.

SCH has X amount of skills or WHM has Y number is irrelevant because that's literally no more than what they had in HW, where they actually had some semblance of a DPS rotation and still healed just fine.

[Merrigan]

I swear the people that write these arguments really need to get over themselves. We get it, you aren't skilled enough to manage 2 DoTs or even something as simple as a WAR's rotation on a Healer. The rest of us, however, have long since mastered those skills and got shafted by the constant removal of skills from healers over the years.

It has nothing to do with wanting 7-8 DPS skills and everything to do with wanting something to do beyond spamming 1 all day.

SCH has X amount of skills or WHM has Y number is irrelevant because that's literally no more than what they had in HW, where they actually had some semblance of a DPS rotation and still healed just fine.

They are stuck in the "my class should be better" mindset, if you look at their arguments.

You healer ? You've no right to enjoy a dps rotation (or buff / debuff rotation, for all I care). I'm a dps, so this rotation is mine.

[LittleImp]

Everyone else: Okay, so shields fall off near-instantly, yet they negate damage all the same, if you have time to DPS you have time to reapply a shield to the tank who is always getting hit, especially when he has no more CD's to burn.
"I don't have anything to do."
Everyone else: Did you not just hear what I said?
"I can do DPS instead"
Everyone else: The tank might be more appreciative of not having to be healed if you keep the shield up, especially during big pulls.

This is just objectively bad. Please, NEVER EVER play like this. Dealing damage and killing mobs faster is a significantly more effective form of mitigation than spamming garbage GCD shields in combat.

[QooEr]

average healing design defender



yes healing is surely really fun when you have absolutely no clue what youre doing and youre desperately shielding the party and then the shields wear off after 30 seconds because nobody took damage.

[Rolder50]

average healing design defender



yes healing is surely really fun when you have absolutely no clue what youre doing and youre desperately shielding the party and then the shields wear off after 30 seconds because nobody took damage.

You don't even need to use FFLogs, you can look at the Lodestone achievements of the average healing defender on here and see that they have never touched savage. Hell, a certain Miqo'te in this thread has never even done a NORMAL raid. Which is just par for the course, really.

[Semirhage]

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Wow, I think this is all five Bog Standard Sylphie Arguments in one post. Nice.

I've healed UWU. I casted Stone hundreds of times while doing it.

I cannot understand the raging HeALerS sHouLd HeAL OnLY consistent response to the so-simple-a-monkey-could-understand statement "pressing one button over and over and over again is boring".

Because pressing one button over and over and over again. Is boring. Perhaps the developers could design the jobs in such a way that doesn't encourage that. But oh no, this thread topic couldn't be more true. Because we need to spend our time on the forums, arguing with ignoramuses who keep telling us "well just play it badly then!" as if that constituted an intelligent contribution.

[GrimGale]

Yes, because the game's lore is the core of it and its job classes, it's a MAGIC CLASS like other magic classes that use one button to do the heavy part of their damage with similar if not superior potency is why they only need 1 button. They aren't monks, they don't run combos. If anything is a symbol of their strength that they only need 1 button and have comparable power to other MAGIC JOBS. Suggestions like "give healers more combat options." get shot down because there is no grounds for it. White Mages are NOT offensive powerhouses, be thankful they are as powerful offensively as they are period.

????

If anything lore in FFXIV is testimony to healers being less powerful and offensively oriented than they should be.

[Catwho]

I don't play SCH in Savage (I'm SMN there), but I usually roll into Expert dungeon with it for queue times.

I prefer SCH as a healer because I literally never have to cast a GCD heal if I don't feel like it. I don't have to take my target off the tank unless a DPS stepped in the bad. It's the laziest healer and I love it so much.

Sure, Art of War one button spam is boring, but it's also satisfying in a way to NOT EVER HAVE TO STOP SLAPPING THE GROUND because the tank is good and the DPS got everything dead enough that I could finish off the final mob with a quick Ruin II.

[Shougun]

I've gotta say, this has been one of the most pleasant conversations I've had in the forums lol.
Maybe when datacenter visit comes around we can probably do a lil bit of content together.
Maybe just chat about the state of the game in game and what not. You seem pretty chill.

I intended to respond to this but then got distracted by all the other fun fires going on lol. I agree the conversation was good, it was actually both fun and ended up feeling quite sincere.

I always enjoy talking about ideas and game concepts (hence my post count, which I'd say is easily majority 'ideas / thoughts' directly related to gameplay and mechanics).. so I wasn't anticipating disliking the conversation but I wasn't sure if we'd end up being like "NO U" lol. We did not :P.

Always welcome to talk to me when I'm in game, if I can't login to Balmung because server capacity due too much 'exceptional'RP going on then I'll know where else to try hahaha . Currently my schedule is login, garden, do 1 to 4 pvp sessions and log out lol. You best believe I'll be all up in that Island Sanctuary when it's out tho

[Jkap_Goat]

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even FFXI white mages has more WHITE Magic combat than ffxiv white mages