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  1. #171
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    Feronar's Avatar
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    Feronar Bloodfang
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    Kraken
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    Viper Lv 100
    Guild Wars 2 style crafting materials bank.


    The Material Storage section is on the right side.

    The Material Storage in GW2 allows for the storage of all types of crafting materials in the game. There is a slot for each individual material, with materials you do not have being grayed out. As a result, you don't need to worry about all those materials taking up space in your bags. You can also craft using materials directly from the bank, you don't have to go there to withdraw them first. You are limited to 250 of each type of material, but that can be increased with an in-app purchase. In GW2 the Material Storage bank is account wide.

    In FF14 it could be reproduced with separate sections for each expansion's materials, that is, sections for A Realm Reborn, Heavensward, Stormblood, Shadowbringers, and Endwalker. I'm not sure FF14's infrastructure would allow for account-wide material storage, in which case, it would have to be per character.
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  2. #172
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    Raikai's Avatar
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    Arlo Nine-tails
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    Mateus
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    Scholar Lv 90
    In the Glamour Dresser, let us use dyes directly from our Retainer inventories or Chocobo Saddlebag.
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  3. #173
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    Stormfur's Avatar
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    Hex Pathcrosser
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    Leviathan
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    Dragoon Lv 72
    1) Stop playing that stupid sound every time I turn in stuff to my GC.
    2) Let me check a box in settings that says "I don't care if I turn in something high quality"
    3) Let me also check a box in settings that says "Don't warn me again" when I buy something for a class that isn't mine
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  4. #174
    Player Deveryn's Avatar
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    Deveryn Ev'liarsh
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    Excalibur
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    Summoner Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Rangiswimming View Post
    Different inventory of 120 slots for furniture, dyes, and materia.
    get an apartment (and FC room if you can). That's plenty of storage space
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  5. #175
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    Misplaced_Marbles's Avatar
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    Violent Saviour
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    Omega
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    Monk Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Deveryn View Post
    get an apartment (and FC room if you can). That's plenty of storage space
    "Introducing: band-aid! Used to placate whiners to accept mediocrity. Slap yours on today!"
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  6. #176
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    Shougun's Avatar
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    Wubrant Drakesbane
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    Balmung
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    Fisher Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Deveryn View Post
    get an apartment (and FC room if you can). That's plenty of storage space
    FFXIV has a lot of space if you stretch to use it, like using all your characters + a FC for transferring

    FFXIV has a lot of 'dodo' space though....

    I'd happily cut all my /potential/ storage into smart storage. Like smart crafting bags, tokens, account bound, glamour, etc (all things GW2 has achieved to be honest).

    Don't want another chocobo saddle bag as a solution to random tokens or tackle or whatever. I want smarter inventory, especially now. If we were at like 60 inventory slots, yeah maybe lol. But my inventory space is fine, now I need something intelligent that can organize it for me.

    Of course it's not as simple as talking about it, these are very complex systems, but while 800 glamour slots is interesting because it's essentially a huge equipment bank.. I'd rather have a glamour log (like WoW, GW2, etc). In some ways, yes we need more slots... but primarily FFXIV's solution is to throw the basic slot at the problem. I'd like something more than just a basic slot at this point. Especially when we get suggested painful suggestions like storing it across the four corners of the world (some exaggeration , but definitely inventory juggling and couriering), or on entirely different characters sometimes.. lol.

    I feel they could be making some more intelligent and focused systems that make life easier for both us and them, because narrow focused systems tend to have shortcut optimizations that can't be done free form (beyond the massive investment to have their memory function differently, of course).
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    Last edited by Shougun; 07-26-2022 at 01:03 PM.

  7. #177
    Player Deveryn's Avatar
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    Deveryn Ev'liarsh
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    Excalibur
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    Summoner Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Shougun View Post
    Of course it's not as simple as talking about it, these are very complex systems, but while 800 glamour slots is interesting because it's essentially a huge equipment bank.. I'd rather have a glamour log (like WoW, GW2, etc). In some ways, yes we need more slots... but primarily FFXIV's solution is to throw the basic slot at the problem. I'd like something more than just a basic slot at this point. Especially when we get suggested painful suggestions like storing it across the four corners of the world (some exaggeration , but definitely inventory juggling and couriering), or on entirely different characters sometimes.. lol.

    I feel they could be making some more intelligent and focused systems that make life easier for both us and them, because narrow focused systems tend to have shortcut optimizations that can't be done free form (beyond the massive investment to have their memory function differently, of course).
    Just because they can add more to the glamour, it doesn't mean they can do all these other things. It doesn't mean they should do all these other things. 10 years in, I think it's safe to say a lot of this is pretty much locked in. It's pretty clear that the way the inventory system works, it can't allow for all these fancy extras that might work in other games. You can't craft with items outside your inventory. You can't dye with items outside your inventory. You can't glam NPCs outside your inventory, even in your squad room that has a dresser in it. That should say plenty.

    GW2 did this. WoW did that. Good for them. Those are different games though. I've seen stuff in other games I might like to see here, but I know it's not happening. I used to play EQ2. That was great for resource storage and they had something working early on and it eventually expanded to cover more items. It's in the last year that they added storage for furniture. But again, they had a better starting point for that.

    A quick scan of some of these more recent "qol" changes shows a lot of so-called problems that can easily be solved with some organization. Folks can spend their days dreaming and pleading for this and that or just see how a lot of this stuff isn't really necessary to hold onto. So much is so easy to access. They could be working on other things to improve the game and the UI, but no... some people want more room for clutter.

    I'm not trying to placate anyone. I'm trying to get people to think. Be realistic. What do you really need all that crafting stuff handy for? Is it really convenient to hold so much? It seems like more of a hassle as you still have to keep track of it. I know some hoarders and I've talked to them and they don't use much of anything. Maybe it gets listed on the market. I've been playing with just 2 retainers for the past 3 years. I had just 3 months with a third, when I was doing a few too many things at once. Other than that, I manage just fine.
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  8. #178
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    Jatoi's Avatar
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    Magnolia Sylvanshine
    World
    Balmung
    Main Class
    White Mage Lv 100
    More shapes in the makeup tab at character creation/the aesthetician such as an eyeliner shape for winged liner.
    Have the lipstick be brighter in saturation. The reds are terrible when you choose the dark option, it's not a true crimson but more brownish scab-color.
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  9. #179
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    Fhaerron's Avatar
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    Fhaerron Kobayashi
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    Twintania
    Main Class
    Paladin Lv 100
    Instanced housing.

    Glamour commodore removed and a system like Transmogrification put in place with an appearance log.


    Remove retainer inventory and replace with 'inventory bank' & extra tabs for resources, increase stack size to 999, item to make personal and FC chest accessible wherever you are.
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    Last edited by Fhaerron; 07-26-2022 at 07:29 PM.
    Letter from the Producer LIVE Part IX Q&A Summary (10/30/2013)
    Q: Will there be any maintenance fees or other costs for housing, besides the cost of the land and house?
    A: In older MMOs, such as Ultima Online, there was a house maintenance fee you had to pay weekly, but in FFXIV: ARR we decided against this system. Similarly, these older MMOs also had a system where your house would break down if you didn’t log in after a while in order to have you continue your subscription, but this is a thing of the past and we won't have any system like that.

  10. #180
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    GeminiReed's Avatar
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    Alys Isshu
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    Malboro
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    Summoner Lv 61
    Quote Originally Posted by Deveryn View Post
    I'm not trying to placate anyone.
    Sure you are and it's not a good look.

    I'm trying to get people to think. Be realistic.
    There's no reason in the world why currency tokens like the Moogle Tomestones or the plethora of "Memories" are inventory items. All of that should have gone into the currency tab. Crafting mats are a similar problem. Then they have the temerity to cry poverty and insist people rent additional retainers when we beg for more inventory slots. Thanks to the useless aetherial (pink) gear general inventory slots are unnecessarily inefficient because it needs to carry all the stat information.

    Square is firmly in the realm of design the problem sell the solution territory and we, the customers, need to hold them accountable for bad behavior.
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