Sanctuary Island - Housing Hope or Doman Enclave 2.0?

[Amenara]

I think it's going to just be a daily thing to do or somewhere to afk. I don't expect any level of complexity outside of maybe a minigame with your minions, place some random objects around, and a proof that if SE wants to do instanced things, like houses, they can. I'm hoping I don't look back on it as a waste of developer resources that should have been used for other things.

[Jojoya]

Final Fantasy Garrisons without the WoW Garrison character progression content.

I don't think it will turn out to be bad content. A lot of players will probably end up enjoying it. But it's not going to be the content most players are looking to have added right now and that's going to leave a mighty pile of resentment on the doorstep for a few months.

The most I'm hoping for is its finally a place I can store all my outside furniture in I've collected since 2.0.

Tired of my damn retainer carrying all that crap around because the devs couldn't allow the junk to be stored in apartment storage. :/

That, and having access to my own garden finally. I want to make my own seeds and stuff for my culinarian job to use and not have to buy it crap off of the marketboard for crap tons of gil.

You are going to be so very, very disappointed. Most of what you're probably using for CUL can't even be grown in a garden (unless you're sticking to low level ARR recipes).

[Aragon]

Here's what I think happened.
He might have decided to try quickly adding more to it to try making up for what a disappointment it would now turn out to be-through no fault of his own, mind you!

While i agree it's not directly their fault, it sort of is indirectly, there are currently two major issues subscribers would love to be finally fixed, 1) Housing rectification (that does not negatively impact the socio - communal aspect like say instances may) 2) A Transmog system like swtor/wow. Because these issues have been apparent for such a long term period and has not yet been addressed effectively it became the rumor's..
Instead of adding Island Sanctuary and new quirky things in expansions, just focusing on permanently addressing these 2 issues First would be much more positively received by the player base.

[Beardo04]

Did people just forget that this was originally supposed to launch with the Shadowbringers expansion?

I'm glad I'm not the only one that remembers that we were supposed to get "player run farms" in ShB...

[Hanayumi]

Feel like if it was anything dealing with housing they would advertise it as such from the start considering housing has been a glaring mark for devs ever since it launched. Since we have gotten little to no info and Yoshi P already mentioned to "set expectations low", its a gimme that it wont be anything close to personal housing...

[Novae]

It will be 10 min/week content. And if you dare asking for more, you're just a hater.

[Shougun]

Final Fantasy Garrisons without the WoW Garrison character progression content.

I don't think it will turn out to be bad content. A lot of players will probably end up enjoying it. But it's not going to be the content most players are looking to have added right now and that's going to leave a mighty pile of resentment on the doorstep for a few months.


You are going to be so very, very disappointed. Most of what you're probably using for CUL can't even be grown in a garden (unless you're sticking to low level ARR recipes).

My worry is, as they've done it before, for example Blue Mage which was a perfect opportunity to go WILD but particularly at release, not true anymore, it was like 'take 4 spells out and this is basically a worse normal job. . . ', that they are going to approach this concept similar to blue and it'll be very very conservatively designed and quite isolated in value if not entirely so.

Of course we both agreed in the past about some of the major issues with Garrisons, unless I false created memory lol, like how Garrisons took players out of the game world because you had to baby sit the war table (and was pumping /new/ gold into the economy)... But... there was still a lot neat features and QoL you could earn that didn't mess the game. Things that WoW likes to do with their crafters or racials / job abilities- role play like stuff that they didn't mess up on xD.

My worry is, and obviously we'll just have to wait and see, that they're going to have a lot of similar systems but with nearly no benefits (like "It's WoW Garrisons minus all the benefits"). Now I think I'd still like messing with minions, building up my own space, etc, but it would be, I feel, unfortunate if it was entirely self guided content in that you did it because you did it and there was not really anything to earn / achieve outside of building your shed out of different woods or something lol (like I said I'd probably still do it, but given the assumed reduced creativity of it not being instanced housing.. hopefully its a little offset).

I think there will be a good amount of players who would like well made WoW Garrisons, but I think a lot of people are hoping for instanced housing which ... there doesn't really seem to be any good reason to assume that'll be the case. Hopefully they might have a cottage you can build that has inn room features (and maybe some other choice housing features, chocobo stable for example seems semi-reasonable to expect or ask for). Then, ideally, they can figure out how to add actual instanced housing later. Like starting with getting everyone an apartment room (as currently, technically, some servers could run out of apartments lol), and allow players to associate a room / building to your apartment. Like maybe you build a large prebuilt house with light customization almost like a skyrim house or other sRPGs that have light housing customization and then you can add a door that connects to your apartment room (even better if it seamlessly loaded it into the framework). Or if they can figure out the apartment system so they can upgrade to two floors / etc, such that it's basically the inside of a house without the ward space.

In the end, it might be conceivable to either get VERY close to housing-lite, and I think even more would appreciate that... but with some really good thal prayers it may be able to turn into instanced housing if they can figure the apartment system and then associate that to building in the island.

As for the person you quoted, it extends my worry, like the stuff you can farm isn't worth it for whatever reason... all custom plants that have no value outside of it's own content and might not even be trade-able lol. I'm not saying the system needs to print money just... I have a small worry that the system is going to be hyper conservative and isolated as if you could not even know it existed because it was so isolated it was basically a content island off to itself, though creating items you can sell on the market is a good solution to the problem Garrisons created as they just literally printed 'new' money and that has a much more powerful inflation impact.

[Izar_Chillen]

He did a series of interviews too. That's when the speculation really started. He explicitly said you start with a "blank canvas", place things like buildings, decorate, invite friends over, etc.

Initially, the only thing he said expectation wise was not to expect "animal crossing" because that's a full blown game. Totally fair.

I dunno where the insistence comes from that players created most of the hype. I think players have run with what was said, but the stuff he said was pretty neat and clearly meant to create hype. It does sound similar to housing in how it was described, so I don't blame anyone.

That isnt hyping it up , thats a typical feature presentation of WIP content

Its the players that created the "hype" after the fact and player speculation has made up what it hopes it will be.

A developer "hyping " a feature would make much more of a presentation of it. Most likely a whole featurette of nothing but said feature . That would be a developer "hyping" a product/feature , with continued internal/external press pieces with it featured again especially when they have more finished components of said feature to reveal.

[RobynDaBank]

I don't think Islands will be made to be as conservative and useless as possible, because IMHO in FFXIV isolated content has its worth. Gardening and FC house vehicular ventures can obtain scarce things for the MB. Zadnor has some buyable hairstyles which net a lot of gil. Eureka is generous with its lockboxes, I only finished Anemos and getting sellable demimateria netted me nice, small helpings of money. Treasure Maps are extremely profitable, if only when lucky. Stuff like that.

Garrisons in WoW were great if you hated professions, there was a farm you could have in Halfhill, Valley of the Four Winds in MoP which you could grow profession materials on. Honestly as someone who dislikes crafting and gathering in games... I'll take Island Sanctuaries with gladness if they'll be similar to these content packs. Might create an outcry from DoL/DoH mains I guess.

[BaconBits]

Don't you dare crush my dreams.... don't you dare.

I'mma do it. I'mma crush those dreams.