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    Mikey_R's Avatar
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    Mike Aettir
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    Cerberus
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    Paladin Lv 100
    Here is a crude table (and I do mean crude)

    https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets...it?usp=sharing

    First table is using the AoE combo to refresh Surging Tempest every time, second is using all single target. This take into account direct crits and the fact you do not start the fight under Surging Tempest, keeps track of Beast Gauge and the timer for Surging Tempest, always refreshing before it runs out and the timer for Infuriate.

    Since this is just a messy mockup, it isn't intended to be pretty, but hopefully the info needed is there. This runs for 2 minutes and you can see 2 columns for damage, one is just the potency for the attack and the second is the running total potency up to that point. As you can see, the AoE combo does pull ahead to start with, but that is only because it can initiate the burst 1 GCD sooner, after that, single target will win, single target also ends with more Surging Tempest and Beast Gauge.

    Since this was put together relatively quickly I do not expect it to me mistake free, however, it should be a good enough indicator to show that the AoE combo is not good for refreshing Surging Tempest in single target.
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    ICountFrom0's Avatar
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    Zedlizvez Mikasch
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    Hyperion
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    Machinist Lv 100
    *nod* and that brief pulling ahead is why it was so sticky in my mind. I'm also mentally underestimating eye's combo damage, probably due to it being lower in previous iterations.

    Thank you for putting in the effort to help me find where my head got stuck.
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    Jain Farstrider
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    Leviathan
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    Marauder Lv 100
    There might be a corner case where you've hit OP while killing the last set of trash mobs before a boss and you run into the boss with the option to either reset your rotation with HS->Maim->SP (to refresh the buff) or just finish with Mythril Tempest, refresh the buff, get 20 beast gauge. Since the latter is 1 move, gets you 30s on that buff and 20 beast gauge, I'm guessing that is the only corner case where you'd hit an AOE move for a single target.
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    Veranolth's Avatar
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    Veranolth Dawnglimmer
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    Behemoth
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    Warrior Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by dspguy View Post
    There might be a corner case where you've hit OP while killing the last set of trash mobs before a boss and you run into the boss with the option to either reset your rotation with HS->Maim->SP (to refresh the buff) or just finish with Mythril Tempest, refresh the buff, get 20 beast gauge. Since the latter is 1 move, gets you 30s on that buff and 20 beast gauge, I'm guessing that is the only corner case where you'd hit an AOE move for a single target.
    Personally I would still go for my single target combo because most likely my Surging Tempest buff will still be up, but also I might go for Storm's Path for the extra beast gauge and damage (Storm's Eye extends the buff, not Storm's Path), and my opener would be less awkward.
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