What is wrong with cone aoe?

[Reinhardt_Azureheim]

Cone enjoyer here, simple question - we had three solid tanks with circle AOEs as their combo, with PLD having target-circle AOEs on Confiteor + Blade of Valor combo, DRK having line AOEs (functionally similar to cones) on Flood + Shadowbringer and Gunbreaker being a true circle AOE job on all AOE skills.

If you didn't like the cone and it bothered you this much, why didn't you play another job? Should we make DRK's Flood of Shadow + Shadowbringer into circle AOEs as well? We need to move back and forth between GCDs, so more than WAR with cones?

I thought homogenisation between the jobs is something we were originally against, were we not?

[Sesera]

Cone enjoyer here, simple question - we had three solid tanks with circle AOEs as their combo, with PLD having target-circle AOEs on Confiteor + Blade of Valor combo, DRK having line AOEs (functionally similar to cones) on Flood + Shadowbringer and Gunbreaker being a true circle AOE job on all AOE skills.

If you didn't like the cone and it bothered you this much, why didn't you play another job? Should we make DRK's Flood of Shadow + Shadowbringer into circle AOEs as well? We need to move back and forth between GCDs, so more than WAR with cones?

I thought homogenisation between the jobs is something we were originally against, were we not?

We don't dislike cone we dislike cone into circle give us full cone, full circle or full straight line not some kind of mixed bag.

[Reinhardt_Azureheim]

We don't dislike cone we dislike cone into circle give us full cone, full circle or full straight line not some kind of mixed bag.

Maybe just my own viewpoint, but I saw the cone-circle dynamic in the combo as a smaller scale of skill expression - in exchange of a lower count of AOE damage abilities (oGCDs) you made up by having skill expression via movement.

As a reward you had essentially leeway for your positioning when it came to dodging enemy AOEs while still hitting all targets with the increased range of Overpower, which also allows you to grab mobs in a wider area in front of you.

For me this is a loss of potential skill expression, both for Warrior and Samurai. Yet Reaper gets to have both somehow...

[Marxam]

Cone enjoyer here, simple question - we had three solid tanks with circle AOEs as their combo, with PLD having target-circle AOEs on Confiteor + Blade of Valor combo, DRK having line AOEs (functionally similar to cones) on Flood + Shadowbringer and Gunbreaker being a true circle AOE job on all AOE skills.

If you didn't like the cone and it bothered you this much, why didn't you play another job? Should we make DRK's Flood of Shadow + Shadowbringer into circle AOEs as well? We need to move back and forth between GCDs, so more than WAR with cones?

I thought homogenisation between the jobs is something we were originally against, were we not?

I've always been against it but apparently with the rise of newer players and casuals in the game, the devs need to cater to them. Good or bad that's up to you to decide. I've always been of the mindset where if you don't struggle, you don't learn. If everything is just given to you, you become complacent. I also expect a rise of "jobs lack identity" threads to increase in the future if they continue on this path. Jobs in FFXIV are like T-shirts, they all have a different logos on them but they are all the same T-shirt.

Imo they should have just made both overpower and mythril tempest into a half circle aoe. Decimate and chaotic cyclone are already circle aoes. At least the one bright side is that now I can just sit in the centre of mobs and not move to hit everything and make the healers deal with it. Before I would move out to reposition overpower but now I don't need to. Healers get to heal and tanks get to use their mitigation so it's a win-win.

[VirusOnline]

Cone enjoyer here, simple question - we had three solid tanks with circle AOEs as their combo, with PLD having target-circle AOEs on Confiteor + Blade of Valor combo, DRK having line AOEs (functionally similar to cones) on Flood + Shadowbringer and Gunbreaker being a true circle AOE job on all AOE skills.

If you didn't like the cone and it bothered you this much, why didn't you play another job? Should we make DRK's Flood of Shadow + Shadowbringer into circle AOEs as well? We need to move back and forth between GCDs, so more than WAR with cones?

I thought homogenisation between the jobs is something we were originally against, were we not?

i enjoy cones
just not in xiv
server lag generally annoys me in this aspect of cones

mnk is a pita having to do in and out and in and out and when tanks don't position correctly rip
i would probably personally prefer a full 180 if not at the very least 50% more of the current angle

and when it comes to war... good god you best hope you saved some circulars and sprint because the dps and healers go berserk before you can get that cone out lmao