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    KDSilver's Avatar
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    Shiru Elysia
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    What is wrong with cone aoe?

    I see they remove every cone aoe and they replace it with circular one.
    Yes it's different, has its own downside but it frequently has more range.
    Beside, Reaper for example still has its own version.

    So why did they remove it from Warrior, Samurai..?
    Did anyone complain about it?
    Do people hate it?

    Are they going to make every aoe circular?
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    Kara Dusksinger
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    I kinda understand it with War as a tank, (though I really miss the range, wish they increased the 1st AoE of all tanks at least) but Sam and any others dont really need the circular aoe change tbh...
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    Saraide Derosa
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    Cone hater here, I hated war's cone because the combo from it was a circle. Swapping between them every gcd was what was so annoying to me.
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    Talitha Solarien
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    I'm very happen that they changes it as due to the fact that WAR AOE was a target AOE and selecting specific targets in a mob (esp. using a Controller) sucks.
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    Hezhi Lann
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    There is nothing wrong with cone AOEs.
    As a SAM I liked having a cone shaped Tenka Goken because you could use it outside of the packs after baiting mob AOEs. It matched the animation better and also matched other abilities from SAM's kit better (Ougi Namikiri and Hissatsu Guren, respectively being a cone and a line shaped AOEs).

    The change they make is as silly and nonsensical as removing Kaiten or turning iaijutsus into guaranteed crits. They could have buffed the range of Overpower and Tenka Goken further instead of giving different jobs yet another round of boring homogenization.
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  6. #6
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    But the problem was not the cone then but the need to select a target?
    It means it could still exists if you can spam the cone without that particularity.
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    Last edited by KDSilver; 06-21-2022 at 03:43 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TalithaSolarien View Post
    I'm very happen that they changes it as due to the fact that WAR AOE was a target AOE and selecting specific targets in a mob (esp. using a Controller) sucks.
    As someone else using a controller it never bothered me. I just moved around more to compensate for it.

    To me it was all part of the job. You were supposed to reposition to make sure you hit everything. Feel the same way about Fuga/Fuko on Sam(Was Fuko changed, because Fuga is still a cone attack and I don't play enough SAM to remember).
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    Quote Originally Posted by Saraide View Post
    Cone hater here, I hated war's cone because the combo from it was a circle. Swapping between them every gcd was what was so annoying to me.
    From this point of view it is indeed understandable.
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    Hezhi Lann
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    Quote Originally Posted by NekoMataMata View Post
    Feel the same way about Fuga/Fuko on Sam(Was Fuko changed, because Fuga is still a cone attack and I don't play enough SAM to remember).
    At level 86 your cone Fuga turns into a circle Fuko.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hezhi View Post
    At level 86 your cone Fuga turns into a circle Fuko.
    I know that Fuga turns into Fuko at level 86. I was just asking whether or not Fuko was always a circle.
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