When is PLD Getting Fixed So It Can Be a VIABLE Tank?

[Keramory]

Your war cant help double regen the party, help with stoneskin rotations, cover for flare fest, stand still for coin counter, nor keep hate from a trio of monks not holding back on mistress. Pld can, and make it look easy.

I watched a pld hold coin counter off for 5 minutes as both whm's wiped.

Yeah, war can do more damage, but the monks not having to hold back in the slightest will easily make up for the pld's attack and then some.

[Dawiichan]

Your war cant help double regen the party, help with stoneskin rotations, cover for flare fest, stand still for coin counter, nor keep hate from a trio of monks not holding back on mistress. Pld can, and make it look easy.

I watched a pld hold coin counter off for 5 minutes as both whm's wiped.

Yeah, war can do more damage, but the monks not having to hold back in the slightest will easily make up for the pld's attack and then some.

Pretty much this. Unless I'm the monk that is getting collusioned, even with the -20 enm tabard and my -23 enm belt, I take hate much faster on a warrior than on a paladin. Spirit's Within just gives so much enmity it's crazy. Also since PLD makes more use out of the heavy darklight set than warrior, they can in the end have much higher enmity gain.

Now, I still believe PLD requires some fixes still, but at least now it has something which it does better than war.

[Dzian]

Also since PLD makes more use out of the heavy darklight set than warrior, they can in the end have much higher enmity gain.

Now, I still believe PLD requires some fixes still, but at least now it has something which it does better than war.

shouldnt really require a gear set to make a job work. it should be viable with any appropriate gear set. (key word appropriate) part of why i say cover is broken. without the af body you lose the mp regen and in turn thats fairly crippling as for the ost part outmanouvere isn't an overly impressive mp return (sure theres a few exceptions) but for the most part the most viable mp source a paladin has is cover and that forces you to use af. which is kinda why i think it still needs balancing.

but paladin is certainly much better than it was. few minor tweaks to mp regen giving people the option to use different gear more freely. maybe let them use melded cobalt/sentinals or soemthing without crippling a huge source of there mp.

[Dawiichan]

shouldnt really require a gear set to make a job work. it should be viable with any appropriate gear set. (key word appropriate) part of why i say cover is broken. without the af body you lose the mp regen and in turn thats fairly crippling as for the ost part outmanouvere isn't an overly impressive mp return (sure theres a few exceptions) but for the most part the most viable mp source a paladin has is cover and that forces you to use af. which is kinda why i think it still needs balancing.

but paladin is certainly much better than it was. few minor tweaks to mp regen giving people the option to use different gear more freely. maybe let them use melded cobalt/sentinals or soemthing without crippling a huge source of there mp.

Never said it was required. PLD can already keep better hate than War without it. I said that they can make more use of heavy darklight letting them get higher enm gain. You know, cause the endgame gear is supposed to help you.

[Kerwin]

Never said it was required. PLD can already keep better hate than War without it. I said that they can make more use of heavy darklight letting them get higher enm gain. You know, cause the endgame gear is supposed to help you.

But I don't want to look like a tin can. Although I love the stats.

[Alerith]

Never said it was required. PLD can already keep better hate than War without it. I said that they can make more use of heavy darklight letting them get higher enm gain. You know, cause the endgame gear is supposed to help you.

The -cure potency is murder on those though. It kills your versatility in a lot of fights... Personally, I don't think it's worth the increased enmity if you can already hold hate. If you're having issues holding hate and not staying alive, ok, use it. But otherwise I don't really think it's the best trade off.

[Daniel_Fury]

The -cure potency is murder on those though. It kills your versatility in a lot of fights... Personally, I don't think it's worth the increased enmity if you can already hold hate. If you're having issues holding hate and not staying alive, ok, use it. But otherwise I don't really think it's the best trade off.

Wrong set. DPS set has -cure potency, the Heavy Darklight set doesn't have that.

http://mooglebox.com/entries/heavy-d...-gauntlets.php
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Stats favor PLD over WAR.

[Alerith]

Wrong set. DPS set has -cure potency, the Heavy Darklight set doesn't have that.

http://mooglebox.com/entries/heavy-d...-gauntlets.php
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Stats favor PLD over WAR.

O.o

Do want.

[Daniel_Fury]

I watched a pld hold coin counter off for 5 minutes as both whm's wiped.

Soo true. Just to add onto this, I solo'd Coin Counter from 50% to 0% as PLD tank when my party wiped.

Nothing wrong with either job.

My only issue is when my PLD out dps'd my WAR on Chimera o.o