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    Keramory's Avatar
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    Lee Keramory
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    You dont need cover MP to do your job well, hell last I checked our pld doesnt even use af guantlets anymore...or least the last few runs I did with him. Theres other ways to restore MP or keep Pld a good job without his mp pool being 100% every second. No melee class should have an mp regen better or equal to that of a mage.

    Again pld is fine. Any more buffing and its just requests from people who just dont want to work at it. Thats like me saying mnk damage sucks because I'm too lazy to combo again and again.

    Stop complaining before they do buff it, realized its way op...then nerf the ever living hell outta it.
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    i love the people defending pld in its current state. PLD is ok, but I can get on my MRD and do everything twice as good with half the effort.

    These forums are the downfall of this already miserable game
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    Karon Mephisto
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    Quote Originally Posted by ThePatriarch View Post

    These forums are the downfall of this already miserable game
    Then you're in good company. If you dont like the Game, just go an quit.
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    Duelle Urelle
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nero View Post
    Then you're in good company. If you dont like the Game, just go an quit.
    He has a good point though, because a group of posters circle-jerking over how skilled they are despite PLD's current design is not going to help the job get ahead in the long run. It took a step in the right direction, but PLD is still far from being fixed and complete.
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    * The sad thing is that FFXIV turned RDM into a turret, and people think that's what it's supposed to be. It's supposed to combine sword and magic into something more, not spend the bulk of gameplay spamming spells and jump into melee for only 3 GCDs before scurrying back to the back line like good little casters.
    * Design ideas:
    Red Mage - COMPLETE (https://tinyurl.com/y6tsbnjh), Chemist - Second Pass (https://tinyurl.com/ssuog88), Thief - First Pass (https://tinyurl.com/vdjpkoa), Rune Fencer - First Pass (https://tinyurl.com/y3fomdp2)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Duelle View Post
    He has a good point though, because a group of posters circle-jerking over how skilled they are despite PLD's current design is not going to help the job get ahead in the long run. It took a step in the right direction, but PLD is still far from being fixed and complete.
    You don't fix one class fucking another. And that's what happened. If it keeps like that, we will start hearing: " please nerf pld" in a few more weeks.
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    Alerith Rayneheart
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    Quote Originally Posted by Duelle View Post
    He has a good point though, because a group of posters circle-jerking over how skilled they are despite PLD's current design is not going to help the job get ahead in the long run. It took a step in the right direction, but PLD is still far from being fixed and complete.
    But then when is a class at an acceptable level? When any shmuck can pick up the job and do great with little to no effort?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Alerith View Post
    But then when is a class at an acceptable level? When any shmuck can pick up the job and do great with little to no effort?
    This is where things get subjective. Your sig tells me you're on one end of the spectrum. I happen to be somewhere between the middle and the other end of the spectrum, because (to me) designing a role in a way more people are willing to do it is not a bad thing. Not to mention a bigger tank and healer pool is never a bad thing, either.

    The more people willing to take up the mantle of tank or healer, the better. I say that as a prot warrior that saw grandpas and elderly aunts main tank dungeons and raids. Having more people able to take the role made me lots of things; unhappy was not one of them.

    Quote Originally Posted by Noir View Post
    You don't fix one class fucking another. And that's what happened. If it keeps like that, we will start hearing: " please nerf pld" in a few more weeks.
    Please elaborate. If you mean the WAR nerf, only the misinformed were wanting to see WAR nerfed. Some even made claims wanting to remove WAR tanking so that PLD would then be forced on everyone. That's not what a good number of us wanted. I personally wanted PLD buffed to about WAR's level, because I understand that in an IP with more than 20 possible job classes, you can't make one or two classes the only tanks in the damn game.
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    Last edited by Duelle; 05-31-2012 at 10:20 AM.
    * The sad thing is that FFXIV turned RDM into a turret, and people think that's what it's supposed to be. It's supposed to combine sword and magic into something more, not spend the bulk of gameplay spamming spells and jump into melee for only 3 GCDs before scurrying back to the back line like good little casters.
    * Design ideas:
    Red Mage - COMPLETE (https://tinyurl.com/y6tsbnjh), Chemist - Second Pass (https://tinyurl.com/ssuog88), Thief - First Pass (https://tinyurl.com/vdjpkoa), Rune Fencer - First Pass (https://tinyurl.com/y3fomdp2)

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    Ryodi Valhalla
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    Quote Originally Posted by ThePatriarch View Post
    i love the people defending pld in its current state. PLD is ok, but I can get on my MRD and do everything twice as good with half the effort.

    These forums are the downfall of this already miserable game
    I'm guessing you can't eat 100 tonze hits as good as PLD, I would estimate that you infact do it 4000 times worse.
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    Quote Originally Posted by MizoreShirayuki View Post
    Greetings!

    First off let me state that I already know there's a myriad of problems with PLD. I know there are lots of threads about the problems still plaguing PLD so I won't go into any of that.

    All I want to know is how/when does SE plan address PLD's issues? A dev. response with actual time frame would be nice considering both 2.0 & PS3 beta are right around the corner and the gap between PLD & WAR is still very vast.

    Thanks!
    Just learn how to play it
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