When is PLD Getting Fixed So It Can Be a VIABLE Tank?

[Viritess]

I can agree i woudln't want to remove the HP from Boon. I should have mentioned keeping the HP also and adding the TP. But i find it very rare that i'd hit Out-man without hitting Boon also since theres always the chance you wouldn't block. Perhaps i just have yet to face a situation where i saw a point to Out-man without Boon. Concidering the timers I usually have Boon again when Out-man is ready too.

Sentinel would be far more useful to both if ACC was high. Quick, low damage but high ACC hits with Increased Enmity would have an effect. But with misses as it is it can't see its full potential.

Far as Flatblade i'm not totally sure i'd want to replace it with an AOE. I've found it semi handy when other Enmity skills are on cooldown and i have some TP to spare to throw the attack on the secondary tanking target. Not to mention there are (and likely will be more) times when you really don't want to hit more then that single mob.

But perhaps if Riotblade underwent the Lower TP cost (and maybe some pre-req/ positioning changes) Having a chain combo choice of a multi hit single target attack or an AOE attack like circle blade could be an excellent spot for such a skill.

[Brannigan]

I can agree i woudln't want to remove the HP from Boon. I should have mentioned keeping the HP also and adding the TP. But i find it very rare that i'd hit Out-man without hitting Boon also since theres always the chance you wouldn't block. Perhaps i just have yet to face a situation where i saw a point to Out-man without Boon. Concidering the timers I usually have Boon again when Out-man is ready too.

Outmaneuver and Aegis Boon overwrite each other. I could maybe see the point in combining Outmaneuver and Divine Veil but I don't think it's really all that needed.

[Chardrizard]

Tempered Will has limited uses but it is very useful especially on Misser, it basically remove your weigh'd status effect from Misser's Bad breath, very very important to get into position quickly when Misser moves so you do not MPK your party when Misser.

Sentinel is very helpful i never see anyone complaining about it, it can serve really well as oshit button, especially when it comes to bosses and you do not have enough time to evade it, you either pop Sentinel or Aegis Boon, saves lifes.

I agree acc was an issue, i already starts to wear double acc rings though, so far have no issue at all sitting at 400 accuracy.

For Riot Blade, i would love positional correction but it's still fine as it is just now. It does 300-400 to Chimera, so i don't even need to combo it for it to be useful. It's a strong WS to begin with.

[Firon]

Tempered Will has limited uses but it is very useful especially on Misser, it basically remove your weigh'd status effect from Misser's Bad breath, very very important to get into position quickly when Misser moves so you do not MPK your party when Misser.

Sentinel is very helpful i never see anyone complaining about it, it can serve really well as oshit button, especially when it comes to bosses and you do not have enough time to evade it, you either pop Sentinel or Aegis Boon, saves lifes.

I agree acc was an issue, i already starts to wear double acc rings though, so far have no issue at all sitting at 400 accuracy.

For Riot Blade, i would love positional correction but it's still fine as it is just now. It does 300-400 to Chimera, so i don't even need to combo it for it to be useful. It's a strong WS to begin with.

Mog Blade is your friend for Acc i think its the best sword for pld tbh.

[Eremor]

Tempered Will has limited uses but it is very useful especially on Misser, it basically remove your weigh'd status effect from Misser's Bad breath, very very important to get into position quickly when Misser moves so you do not MPK your party when Misser.

Sentinel is very helpful i never see anyone complaining about it, it can serve really well as oshit button, especially when it comes to bosses and you do not have enough time to evade it, you either pop Sentinel or Aegis Boon, saves lifes.

I agree acc was an issue, i already starts to wear double acc rings though, so far have no issue at all sitting at 400 accuracy.

For Riot Blade, i would love positional correction but it's still fine as it is just now. It does 300-400 to Chimera, so i don't even need to combo it for it to be useful. It's a strong WS to begin with.

Thanks actually, as I said, I'm new to PLD and haven't done any endgame with it. I had completely forgotten that it removes bind and heavy as well (and I couldn't think of any draw in effects till I remembered those pesky frog tongues just now). But even then it's highly situational only being truly useful against a single boss and I think could stand to be replaced with a more useful skill.

And yeah I have less of an issue with Sentinel, just having the enmity bonus apply to all actions would be great.

Same for Flat Blade, I know it's useful as it is now, but we can all agree that PLD kinda needs another aoe voke ability and that would have to replace something.

[Chardrizard]

Thanks actually, as I said, I'm new to PLD and haven't done any endgame with it. I had completely forgotten that it removes bind and heavy as well (and I couldn't think of any draw in effects till I remembered those pesky frog tongues just now). But even then it's highly situational only being truly useful against a single boss and I think could stand to be replaced with a more useful skill.

And yeah I have less of an issue with Sentinel, just having the enmity bonus apply to all actions would be great.

Same for Flat Blade, I know it's useful as it is now, but we can all agree that PLD kinda needs another aoe voke ability and that would have to replace something.

It's not only useful for a single boss, i was only giving misser example because that is where tempered will proven to be very very useful !

I am not sure what aoe voke ability you are referring to because we have Flash and War Drum? As for Flat Blade, Flat blade gives you 4.5x return in hate modifier, so if you manage to push your flat blade damage to 400, That is 400 x 4.5, not including enmity pieces in your gears. That is crazy amount of enmity every 1k TP!

Mog Blade is your friend for Acc i think its the best sword for pld tbh.

Garuda's Gaze has enmity+ and block+ also higher DPS to push your WS numbers , both stats which u cant get in rings slot.

[Firon]

It's not only useful for a single boss, i was only giving misser example because that is where tempered will proven to be very very useful !

I am not sure what aoe voke ability you are referring to because we have Flash and War Drum? As for Flat Blade, Flat blade gives you 4.5x return in hate modifier, so if you manage to push your flat blade damage to 400, That is 400 x 4.5, not including enmity pieces in your gears. That is crazy amount of enmity every 1k TP!




Garuda's Gaze has enmity+ and block+ also higher DPS to push your WS numbers , both stats which u cant get in rings slot.

Don't matter if your missing tho if it has more dps.

[Chardrizard]

Don't matter if your missing tho if it has more dps.

I did say i have no more issue after wearing acc rings+ , sitting comfortably now at acc 400.

[LuciBlack]

Give PLD Dual Wield.
Then he will be able to do more damage and be a more viable tank.

[Viritess]

Give PLD Dual Wield.
Then he will be able to do more damage and be a more viable tank.

Sounds great if they can get parry working (and maybe let shield skills work of parries) We all know 2 swords are hawt.