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  1. #111
    Player YukikoKurosawa's Avatar
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    Yukiko Kurosawa
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    Everyone in this thread saying "actually it's NECESSARY filler, you gotta have slow moments in a story" forget that there is such a thing as TOO much slow moments, to the point where it drags down a story. Taking bunnies on a tour while the world burns is not "worldbuilding" or in any way necessary filler, it's the devs deliberately wasting your time to artificially pad out a story so that players didn't get to level cap too soon and realize the severe lack of content brought by Endwalker's 6.0 patch.

    Stories need balance between the highs and the lows and the devs of this game have consistently failed to understand what is and isn't just plain useless filler, or deliberately put that useless filler in. The story of this game is good, but it has some of the worst pacing of any story I have ever experienced. I would argue a good 50% or more of the plot, everything from arr to endwalker, could be straight up cut out and nothing of value would be lost. It would actually IMPROVE the story, I would even argue.
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  2. #112
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    Quote Originally Posted by YukikoKurosawa View Post
    Taking bunnies on a tour while the world burns is not "worldbuilding" or in any way necessary filler
    This isn't a movie where a montage is used to express the passage of time.

    Truth be told, the reason you are taking the 'bunnies' on a tour is because the actual vehicle you're going to use to resolve the burning world isn't ready yet and the builders don't want you to stray so far away that you cannot be easily recalled when it is ready.

    You are welcome to your opinion about the pacing of the story, but that comes down to personal preference, not flaws in design.
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  3. #113
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    magitekLuna's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by DPZ2 View Post
    This isn't a movie where a montage is used to express the passage of time.

    Truth be told, the reason you are taking the 'bunnies' on a tour is because the actual vehicle you're going to use to resolve the burning world isn't ready yet and the builders don't want you to stray so far away that you cannot be easily recalled when it is ready.

    You are welcome to your opinion about the pacing of the story, but that comes down to personal preference, not flaws in design.
    There was onlly 2 parts of the world efected? Really? This was need to finish the story. Why we not ever go to the older places from 2.0-4.0? They did not got efected by the end of the world? May be this be a more plot relevant time waster?as for you can't use a montage to pass time, why not?
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  4. #114
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    Ikara Graydancer
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    Quote Originally Posted by YukikoKurosawa View Post
    Everyone in this thread saying "actually it's NECESSARY filler, you gotta have slow moments in a story" forget that there is such a thing as TOO much slow moments, to the point where it drags down a story. Taking bunnies on a tour while the world burns is not "worldbuilding" or in any way necessary filler, it's the devs deliberately wasting your time to artificially pad out a story so that players didn't get to level cap too soon and realize the severe lack of content brought by Endwalker's 6.0 patch.

    Stories need balance between the highs and the lows and the devs of this game have consistently failed to understand what is and isn't just plain useless filler, or deliberately put that useless filler in. The story of this game is good, but it has some of the worst pacing of any story I have ever experienced. I would argue a good 50% or more of the plot, everything from arr to endwalker, could be straight up cut out and nothing of value would be lost. It would actually IMPROVE the story, I would even argue.
    What's "useless" varies by the person frankly. And what's bad pacing also is subjective. You're clearly coming from a place of negativity andcthats fine. I'm just glad I find enjoyment in the time the story takes to flesh things out or give us a break. If you don't like the pacing skip cutscenes and read the journal. Problem solved
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  5. #115
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    TaleraRistain's Avatar
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    Thalia Beckford
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    Quote Originally Posted by magitekLuna View Post
    There was onlly 2 parts of the world efected? Really? This was need to finish the story. Why we not ever go to the older places from 2.0-4.0? They did not got efected by the end of the world? May be this be a more plot relevant time waster?as for you can't use a montage to pass time, why not?
    The Watcher explained that even in the original Final Days, it only manifested in a couple of places at first. We cut off the Final Days before it got to the point it did in Ancient times.
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  6. #116
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    Quote Originally Posted by TaleraRistain View Post
    The Watcher explained that even in the original Final Days, it only manifested in a couple of places at first. We cut off the Final Days before it got to the point it did in Ancient times.
    But we never even go there to see if it's so or not. What's up in doma? How the aura tribes doing? Alamigans doing ok? Like they helped in the war now they can kill them self as far as the plot cares. It's focus on the new places onlly and in a FINAL part of this story / arc is stupid. Let use go there and see as a time waster over moving boxes.
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  7. #117
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    Tatsuya Sarugaku
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    We need more inventive gameplay in the MSQ because a lot of the time now it just feels like a visual novel. Mgs has a lot of cutscenes but I dont mind it because stuff actually happens and the plot moves (that and it's a linear game). Whereas in xiv theyll use 20 text boxes, with the stiff character animations just to say something they couldve said in a single line. So much fluff. I will say it was nice to see some areas of Ew moving in this direction, like the body swap duty etc.
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  8. #118
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    X'toldha Bihlr
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    This sounds like "I want my favorite TV show to have more seasons but will be mad if there are any filler episodes".
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