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    Quote Originally Posted by Kazhar View Post
    I think when people say dev, they include the entire management. Not the workers who probably didn't get a say in the matter (and even worked behind Yoshi-P's back to give us glasses... which tells us a lot about the identity of the man who isn't interested in giving us basic glamour options).
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    Hrothgar aren't in beta. They were meant to be one and done: NO updates. It wouldn't matter how convoluted the process of their creation is, if they were never meant to get further updated.
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    If that were true, sure.

    Quote Originally Posted by SturmChurro View Post
    Hrothgar aren't in beta. They were meant to be one and done: NO updates. It wouldn't matter how convoluted the process of their creation is, if they were never meant to get further updated.
    I have a rebuttal:

    No.



    Please let me know if you have a reply to this. Love to hear it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kelev View Post
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    No.



    Please let me know if you have a reply to this. Love to hear it.

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    Yeah, I'm pretty sure Yoshida said he never said that. There should be a quote of it around here somewhere. Saying that they weren't going to get any hairs.
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    Quote Originally Posted by SturmChurro View Post
    Yeah, I'm pretty sure Yoshida said he never said that. There should be a quote of it around here somewhere.
    Aka "This makes us look bad so I'm going to feign ignorance!"
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    Quote Originally Posted by Vahlnir View Post
    Aka "This makes us look bad so I'm going to feign ignorance!"
    I wonder if he honestly does ever remember saying that? Hrothgars probably aren't really thought about too often.
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    Quote Originally Posted by SturmChurro View Post
    Yeah, I'm pretty sure Yoshida said he never said that. There should be a quote of it around here somewhere. Saying that they weren't going to get any hairs.
    Here's the image from our community rep:



    And here's the link I got it from:

    https://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/...e-Thread/page4

    That's from a community rep on this forum, so the official translation.

    Please let me know if you have a reply. I'd love to hear it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kelev View Post
    Here's the image from our community rep:



    And here's the link I got it from:

    https://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/...e-Thread/page4

    That's from a community rep on this forum, so the official translation.

    Please let me know if you have a reply. I'd love to hear it.
    Yeah, and I'm telling you there is a quote, it should be in the big hrothgar thread, of Yoshida saying he said they weren't going to get any hairs, and I am also pretty sure they might have said what you are showing was a "mistranslation" - at least that's what people were saying.
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    Thank you to the people explaining server stuff better than I could as a lazy inarticulate weirdo. Limitations imposed by the server is one of those things that always makes sense in my head but I can never quite put in words.

    I have severe ADHD though so my brain goes a million miles an hour, I lose patience with trying to put that into writing, and bleat out something that I hope approximates what I mean. I'm less bad about this in professional settings.

    ....At least I'm not explaining it out loud.
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    Seriously? I don't think people are understanding my intent right now - other than Vahlnir. I was being sarcastic and joking around. It's why I used emojis. I fully acknowledge that past quote, but what I am saying is Yoshida has seemingly forgotten or outright said the complete opposite this year. If you really want me to search through the big hrothgar thread to pull up newer quotes of him where he said he said they weren't going to receive any hair previously, or the discussions around that original quote being a supposed "mistranslation" I will.

    The only thing I was saying was that they were clearly not intended to be updated upon their creation, regardless of what was said back then. They were in their 'complete' state, and that's why they could design them the way they did. Yoshida might have said they would receive hair, but their design, and original intent clearly doesn't line up with that statement, in my opinion. I have remained firm for years, that hrothgar are "finished" - to SE. Them being in "beta" implies that they considered them unfinished.
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