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    Quote Originally Posted by DiaDeem View Post
    Holy crap people are still complaining even after the devs delivered exactly what everyone wanted lol

    Yoshi was actually right...
    Company delivers quarter-finished project
    Players complain about this
    Company decides to make it half finished and not a quarter finished

    "Why isnt everyone happy?1! They're so ungrateful".

    I imagine a lot of players arent happy with being given scraps at a time for a feature that shouldve been fully working on release. It's like you have £50, the company takes £50, gives you back £25 and tells you to be happy with it. Crude analogy but that's the vibe I get from the situation.
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    Imagine the devs taking this attitude as feedback thinking that players aren't happy with the changes anyway so they stop listening to complaints
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    Vivian Rysto
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lustre View Post
    Company delivers quarter-finished project
    Players complain about this
    Company decides to make it half finished and not a quarter finished

    "Why isnt everyone happy?1! They're so ungrateful".

    I imagine a lot of players arent happy with being given scraps at a time for a feature that shouldve been fully working on release. It's like you have £50, the company takes £50, gives you back £25 and tells you to be happy with it. Crude analogy but that's the vibe I get from the situation.
    People wanted hairstyles with ears, hairstyles now have ears. People taking the XIV devs for granted is something that just rubs me the wrong way. Many other devs would have just called it a day and go through with their original plan and never add the ears.

    Also, your arbitrary "quarters" and "halves" make no sense, nor does your weird money analogy. Hroth hairstyles were not even on the cards when the race was released, and they were very clear about that. Hroth hairstyles, Male Viera and eventually Female Hroths are all things they didn't plan for and yet have been added over time.

    I do not lack for empathy, and I say this as a Viera player that can't even wear hats. The difference is that if they ever introduce hats for my race, I'll be happy. Whining about them taking longer than I would have wanted doesn't contribute anything, and I'd rather be grateful for every step in the right direction than angry about it. But that's up to each person I guess.
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    Last edited by DiaDeem; 08-19-2022 at 10:31 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DiaDeem View Post
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    1 - No one is taking them for granted. We've been asking for complete and functional hairstyles for three years. When the only thing you present after so long are the worst choices available and then snip out the ears, then .
    "Many other devs would have just called it a day and go through with their original plan and never add the ears." Yes girlie, and you know what we call those? BAD DEVELOPERS. Look no further than Riot Games.
    Because all we've done was point out flaws in their design and a very noticeable lack of interest. They're good developers otherwise, but even good developers make mistakes. There's a clear difference between that and calling them bad devs.
    Ignoring that is ignoring the whole context behind the race. Then again, I doubt you'd have any context on our race given you don't even play it. So why would you care?

    2 - No, what was not on the cards was Hrothgars wearing other races' hairstyles.
    Hrothgars having racially-unique hairstyles was a thing they admitted to consider doing.
    After 3 years, what we got were other races' hairstyles, and zero unique hairstyles.

    3 - You don't lack for empathy but boy howdy you lack knowledge of the situation.

    4 - "The difference is that if they ever introduce hats for my race, I'll be happy. Whining about them taking longer than I would have wanted doesn't contribute anything, and I'd rather be grateful for every step in the right direction than angry about it."
    GEE, IT'S ALMOST AS IF YOUR RACE HAS A DIFFERENT HISTORY THAN OURS DOES :U

    It's almost as if you didn't wait SILENTLY for three years, waiting for some sliver of attention, see it be delayed, and when it does show up it's a bloody disaster!
    Oh I'm sorry miss, did we all forget collectively that it was YOUR race shouting like crazy in their streams for :crab: MALE VIERA :crab:?
    That it's your race that's getting a lot of hairstyles?
    That whenever the devs speak about the two races, they're super vocal about Viera and often even neglect mentioning Hrothgars at all?
    That it's YOUR RACE that got a male counterpart before either of our races got any fix??

    We have a right to be displeased with this, because unlike your race, ours got humiliating results.

    Please educate yourself on the matter before coming into a thread about it: You didn't get humiliating results. You didn't have a dev show up and say "we didn't do it because it was too hard lol" and then bail. An answer that is both untrue (modders did it in under a week) and also unconvincing (they use Agile Development).

    5 - "But that's up to each person I guess."
    No, that's just you speaking out of your netherhole.
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