Thread: 6.2 Hrothgar Update

Originally Posted by SturmChurro

Even if they made them not look like hulking monstrosities, they'd still be pretty niche, let's be honest. I seriously doubt that race counterpart will be worth the consequences towards customization options, gear, etc. for everyone else. Male hrothgar will probably end up being the ones who suffer the most for female hrothgar inclusion, for that matter. Again, I don't think they should have released male viera either, yet. The only way it would be worthwhile is them miraculously making it easier to fit gear, add customization options, hair, etc.. by then.

I don't think au ra are comparable to female hrothgar either. Unless you think they are going to literally just do miqo'te 2.0 where femhroth are more human than bestial.

People don't GAF about Female Hrothgar because they assume they know what they will look like and don't want "that", even though we have a number of cases of sexual dimorphism in this game's races. As someone who loves character design and art, I can personally see a lot of ways for them to be appealing. Even the Finalized art for the queen as well as the Bozja Mural show a more kemono styled face and I'm sure more people would want to play that than the dudes. It doesn't have to be a matter of "Humanized vs animal", it can be a matter of style. Lopp-Moon buns def don't look "human", but they also clearly don't look like realistic rabbits. The simple fact that they decided to make shared hair work on the dudes leads me to believe that they went in a direction of "Design the females with shared hair in mind".

But like I said, the time for worrying about the drawbacks is long gone. Blame the MV stans, they're legit the only reason we're getting both.

Originally Posted by SturmChurro

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Ehh, There's a gradient to how popular something can be expected to be. Highlander tall, updated, full on Miqote (Anime girl face and all) with fur patterns and full head support? Would legit be one of the top played things in the game. On the other end ... these buff af beefed out "Dudes with boobs" I see in the fan art? SE might as well set that money on fire.

I guess I should establish what I consider "Popular", right? Looking at the numbers, any female as popular as Middie Females. So about 52k players. Using that as a base, there's only 3 unpopular female types in the game (Highlander/ Elezen/ Femroe in that order, with Femroe waaaay down there. You can add all 3 up together, and they're still not as popular as Middie females).

The secret to female characters is that, beyond all the concepts and such, people really just want fun dress-up dolls. People aren't getting tired of any niche (I'm sure a race that looks like our lil blue bird child would be hella popular, just like a doggy Miqote race or Mouse ear Lalas) nor is making everything smoll the only way to make something popular. Viera Females are nothing if not a full-blown hit popularity wise, and literally every female from Femroe to Miqote took a numbers drop from converts when they came out for this reason. Could they be MORE popular if they were shorter? Sure, I guess. They could also be more popular if they could wear headgear, 60k+ are great numbers regardless.

Anyway, never been one for the thought of "If it's not first, it's last". Sure, realistically the chances of them making them in a way that would make them one off the top played females are not high ... but I still know there are many ways to make them decently more popular than those 3 female races or Male Hrothgar or even Middies, so I'd never wave the white flag on em, gotta wait to see wtf they look like first. Hell, I know Male Hrothgar would be more popular if they weren't wide af and stood up straight.

A full on furry femhroth just won't pull in the numbers something like a Khajiit in ESO would.

The thing about Khajiit is that ES basically suffers from the ol Western curse of having no/ a boring af artstyle, which FF14 doesn't suffer from. When I look at this, all I see is a realistic cat head on a reg human body. No style, no expressive features, just a reg real looking cat head. The bare basics of "furry race with a not jank body". I know too much about furry artstyles to think that if that can get a strong fandom then more interesting styles can't. Like, after seeing that banging job they did with loporrit, I'm 100% sure that they can make a hella cute and appealing anime cat face if they wish.

Just wanted to show my support as a beyond EXHAUSTED/TIRED Hrothgar player. I think we should all make sure to tune in to the PLL on July 1st and make some noise on Twitch & YouTube. So much to the point that Yoshi-P cannot ignore it