Thread: 6.2 Hrothgar Update

Originally Posted by PrincessLily

Hrothgar Need find toilet first you guys are constipated.

if we do we'll let you know as we'll probably also find your missing brain in the septic tank.

Originally Posted by PrincessLily

Hrothgar Need find toilet first you guys are constipated.

Sis we wish, but the toilet furnishing they added isn't wide enough for our butts! It's barely a Lalafell bench!!!

Originally Posted by Midareyukki

Sis we wish, but the toilet furnishing they added isn't wide enough for our butts! It's barely a Lalafell bench!!!

the curse of having a juicy dumper.

Originally Posted by PrincessLily

Hrothgar Need find toilet first you guys are constipated.

Thanks fer droppin' by!

-Kel

Originally Posted by Midareyukki

I feel like this is important to reiterate. I don't think anyone genuinely thinks they hate us.

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They do hate hrothgar, actually, theres just oodles of evidence.
1) No hrothgar in the shb trailer. A big long shot of a viera shaking her ass, but not a hrothgar to be found.
2) The gunbreaker questline foists a viera companion into the story because god forbid the non-hrothgar players have to interact with just big lionman Radovan
3) The one hrothgar who matters in any capacity to the story is there to make players seethe with rage over the fact that someone who isn't them gets to hold generic white hair miqote no.633875672110 in his arms.
4) Every other hrothgar npc has the exact same "my wife and children are DEAD and IM SAD" story including the gunbreaker job npc.
5) The bozja storyline. Basically everything about Bozja is just a hrothgar snuff film but the fact that we get maybe 4 lines from hrothgar characters while the rest of the story focuses on Garleans because lord knows the hyur-with-marble-tapped-to-forehead-race is so interesting and nobody was sick of them despite being the villains for 96% of 14's plot
6) The 1 single hrothgar who gets input in the endwalker story is a garlean captive. We beat up his friends and steal his supplies just so too little racists can chose to die freezing in the shitty frozen waste that is Garlemald instead of helping said garlean captive and the domans/ala mhigans who live in the cave with him.
7) Three years. For three years until this past April they sat on their asses and didn't let hrothgar players have aesthetician access for their own races hairs. For three years hrothgar had to pay real money and had to alter their face just to change hair. This was BY DESIGN in order to get more money from players. It was deliberately done because a brand new race isn't important enough to get access to hats or hairs so every hrothgar has a marginally different skull shape, a stupidly obtuse design choice just to screw over players.
8) On top of 7, they never once made this choice APPARENT to new players, never once did they say "oh the new race in Square's money-makingest title? You get to pay extra while every other player gets to use in-game features" much less have they apologized for screwing over hrothgar players.
9) it took 4 extra months past endwalker launch for them to photoshop viera wigs onto hrothgar. Why? There very obviously 0 effort put into these, hrothgar didn't ge 6 different hair options. Why did it take 4 extra months?
10) On that note, Yoship said new hairs may come slower. How much slower can they possibly be? And thats why hrothgar asking "quality not quantity" is infuriating to me. We can very easily get both, god knows Viera are, and we don't deserve to be made to wait until 7.X to get anything. I don't want another expansion long wait to get anything in this game I pay for monthly.

I'd be pleasantly surprised if 6.2 will unlock the rest of the Hrothgar hairstyles for all faces, but I doubt it.

Seems like they were originally committed to give Hrothgars what they give male Viera up until the the backlash the previous update caused. I'm inclined to think there won't be anything for Hrothgars in 6.2

Originally Posted by XiRon

snippy

...I didn't expect it to go down like this. But I'll start by sharing my thoughts on those points

1 - Hrothgar representation... fluctuates. Viera were on the trailer because they were popular. Hrothgar should have been around, but ended up getting a whole piece of content dedicated to them. For better or for worse. (I personally stand on "it was worse", but opinions diverge).
2 - I agree with this. In fact, read it right here, I point that out myself. Radovan is a tragic and tortured war prisoner... and the story slaps him with a partner who tells him "to just get over it". It's insensitive, not just to Hrothgar, but to real life people who went through traumatic experiences. Be they domestic, social or actually due to war. Keep in mind, there is one going on right now in the European continent, in a country where one of the most successful content creators for this game is a refugee from. And guess what. It's a slavic country. Guess where our names come from. What influenced our lore names. They are SLAVIC NAMES
3 - He is, however, the main motivation for her and overall a positive representation. The only criticism I have for Runar is the fact that, like yourself, his name is never once mentioned in Endwalker.
4 - That is partly true. There's more to the Hrothgar NPC dialogue overall. The ones that really drove it were Magnus and Bajsaljen... which doesn't help.
5 - That is correct, it is a gorefest. Especially Zadnor. Especially Dabog's storyline. And what makes me bitter about it is how to access Delubrum you need to go through 5.4. Where you literally find a cure to save them from Tempering.
6 - He is an Aan, but he's not a captive. He says he came to Garlemald to do some work and rise in their society out of his own volition. The rest is correct, he doesn't rise much, and we're brought on with a sob story about how "oh woe is Garleans, such is their undoing"... that really rings hollow if you're a Hrothgar player.

Originally Posted by myahele

I'd be pleasantly surprised if 6.2 will unlock the rest of the Hrothgar hairstyles for all faces, but I doubt it.

Seems like they were originally committed to give Hrothgars what they give male Viera up until the the backlash the previous update caused. I'm inclined to think there won't be anything for Hrothgars in 6.2

I saw viera get rainmaker in 6.1 and was like "oh well apart from Snow our options are trash but at least we'll get the most requested hair in the game in 6.2, I really can't wait for 6.2 I love rainmaker" the Yoship said "mmm guys expending effort might make this take another eternity :/" and...god I have no reason to watch PLL anymore all I care about is my hrothgar getting to use the shit in game everyone else can

Originally Posted by Midareyukki

7 -

...Honestly, you caught me. I don't know where to stand on this one. I don't want to admit that they hate us, but holy hell they make it hard not to feel that way. Don't get me wrong; It's not like I don't want to do it because I'm loyal to them, I'm not. Not after these past years. I want them to be responsible. I just don't want to do it because it doesn't seem right. They said they wanted this race themselves, they worked to put it in. So what the hell? Why treat us this way on and on? I don't know what else to say.

I can't deny every single point I've addressed always has a caveat to it. It just feels so wrong to do this. I started this post thinking "Okay, it can't be that bad". But there is still very much a sour taste. It isn't fair on us. We didn't ask for this race, but we sinned for enjoying it?

Even when I think what you said is a little fuzzy or not as bad, there's always something there. Like a dumb monkey's paw.

Yknow I was so looking forward to Endwalker I thought "oh well they no excuses anymore they got a gorillion more players since I joined EW will be great for hrothgar"
First thing I did on launch day was check my inventory and saddlebag to see if my collection of stylish chapeaus would work...nope. Then I kicked off msq and once I got to Sharlayan I sprinted to the marketboard to check all the new lving gear...it was all recolored old crap.
Ok.
So I made it thru the (frankly joyless) msq, got my Aphorisms, and holy crap I could wear Edwards hat on my ranged jobs!...But it wasn't a REAL hat. It clips so badly in the "Runar" hair its like "why bother".
Then the next tome set dropt and...neither hrothgar or viera can wear the new helms. Despite Yoship saying "no expense spared". Alright well I don't like thick armory sets anyway.
Then aglaia dropt and I LOVED the way the caster/healer hat looked it was so cute...naturally, we can't wear that either. No expense spared.
And now everyone who's seen anyone use certain tools knows what the Ameliance reward is and oh boy...how considerate of Ameliance to get us a nice little derby we can't wear. Very in-character of such a kind woman.
So now despite the fact that EVERYONE loves the forum attire when that finally gets plopped on the mogstation for $39.99 I can expect the haberdashers of Sharlayan will still be too incompetent to make the sweet veiled hat fit their viera or hrothgar forum members. Cause that makes sense.
And its so depressing because I have nothing to look forward to any patches knowing "no expense spared" was a lie.