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    6.2 Hrothgar Update

    I am once again begging the devs to acually TRY in 6.2 with regards to hrothgar. I would really like to use hairstyles that have my ears attached. I would just be tickled pink to use my Rainmaker hair or Windcaller. Windcaller is only obtainable from bozja, the hrothgar homeland, and YOU KNOW hrothgar en masse want that hair option. If you google hrothgar hair or windcaller you will likely see modded hrothgar wearing it on the front page.

    Please also do the very, very bare minimum and let us use all hrothgar race-specific hair options. It took 3 years to get one other hair related to specific faces, are you kidding me? Three years for one faces hair. That should have been fixed by 5.1 at LEAST not an entire expansion later. I am asking the devs to actually show they care for once because leaving hrothgar abandoned for 3 years and then giving us 1 unfantasiaed hair option is utter bull. 3 years to get nonrace-specific hairs at the cost of ears? I hope the next glamour rips off Au Ra scales if racial traits can be removed.

    Its been 3 years and I'm sick to death of waiting. Hrothgar are not asking for Yoship to sacrifice his firstborn, they are not holding SE employees hostage at gunpoint so I don't know why you are treating these players so, so tremendously badly.

    The fact that you couldn't even update """""new""""" hair options to retain our ears all 6.1 is revolting. You can fix a dragoon bug in a single fight or update a pair of glasses to be toggleable on mviera but can't keep preexisting EARS on a races head? Come on already.

    Please, please do not make hrothgar wait until 7.0 to get anything worth our subscription fees. It cannot this hard, we all know it isn't.
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    It's a serious issue when modders are doing far better work than experienced devs.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kranel_San View Post
    It's a serious issue when modders are doing far better work than experienced devs.
    Inb4 "modders don't have restrictions"

    Like ok? Super? What ARE these restrictions and WHY do they very obviously only apply to hrothgar getting hair or hrothgar and viera getting headgear (love the 5 hats hrothgar can wear that clip so atrociously into every non-Zlatan hair style its like "why bother").

    Modders don't have restricions BUT they do not have the 14 teams resources either, much less manpower or training. The extremely popular hrothgar/viera hat mod is by 1 (ONE!!!) person who is still in freaking college, AND they aren't being paid to update said mod either, they just do.

    If this is going to continue to be such a stabbing thorn in the devs sides, then the first mod they need to look at adding like they talked about in april is the hrothgar/viera hat and hair mods. Then they can never think about it again because literally everything in the game has been made to work for these races already by people who are untrained, unpaid, and do not even "main" hrothgar or viera, they just care about those players not getting needlessly screwed over every single patch.
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    Quote Originally Posted by XiRon View Post
    Inb4 "modders don't have restrictions"

    Like ok? Super? What ARE these restrictions and WHY do they very obviously only apply to hrothgar getting hair or hrothgar and viera getting headgear (love the 5 hats hrothgar can wear that clip so atrociously into every non-Zlatan hair style its like "why bother").

    Modders don't have restricions BUT they do not have the 14 teams resources either, much less manpower or training. The extremely popular hrothgar/viera hat mod is by 1 (ONE!!!) person who is still in freaking college, AND they aren't being paid to update said mod either, they just do.

    If this is going to continue to be such a stabbing thorn in the devs sides, then the first mod they need to look at adding like they talked about in april is the hrothgar/viera hat and hair mods. Then they can never think about it again because literally everything in the game has been made to work for these races already by people who are untrained, unpaid, and do not even "main" hrothgar or viera, they just care about those players not getting needlessly screwed over every single patch.
    Developing content for 6.2, 6.3 and even 7.0. there is most likely strict budgeting and time secluding and we also know ff14 devs and billed out to ff16 and ff11. they were pretty clear they didn't want to add a new race after Au Ra but the community kept pushing and as a result, they get lacklustre attention at the end of the day modders do one thing in their free time but SE employees still have to make new content.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mosha View Post
    Developing content for 6.2, 6.3 and even 7.0. there is most likely strict budgeting and time secluding and we also know ff14 devs and billed out to ff16 and ff11. they were pretty clear they didn't want to add a new race after Au Ra but the community kept pushing and as a result, they get lacklustre attention at the end of the day modders do one thing in their free time but SE employees still have to make new content.
    Ok? Amazing. Great. I'm so stoked the NEW CONTENT they add every patch includes like superduper necessary things like...aquarium fish and a parasol emote. While theres a race in their game that still has to change its entire face if it wants to use its racial hair.

    This is such a lameass excuse honest to god like WE SEE them add new stuff every patch that just plain doesnt work, at all, if you dare to play a race from shb. There is 0 reason to not make every single new hat or hair work for hrothgar and viera but we have "oh its hard oooh they have to add a 2 minute solo instance to msq ooh its so difficult please understand" while two PLAYER RACES get the shitcovered end of the stick. Every single time. For YEARS.
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    Quote Originally Posted by XiRon View Post
    Ok? Amazing. Great. I'm so stoked the NEW CONTENT they add every patch includes like superduper necessary things like...aquarium fish and a parasol emote. While theres a race in their game that still has to change its entire face if it wants to use its racial hair.

    This is such a lameass excuse honest to god like WE SEE them add new stuff every patch that just plain doesnt work, at all, if you dare to play a race from shb. There is 0 reason to not make every single new hat or hair work for hrothgar and viera but we have "oh its hard oooh they have to add a 2 minute solo instance to msq ooh its so difficult please understand" while two PLAYER RACES get the shitcovered end of the stick. Every single time. For YEARS.
    They said they DIDN'T want to add another race
    They said those races would have LIMITATIONS
    YOU CHOOSE to play that RACE
    Now you're CRYING on the forums about it.

    Horthgar was a mistake tbh, if you want my opinion.
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    Quote Originally Posted by XiRon View Post
    Ok? Amazing. Great. I'm so stoked the NEW CONTENT they add every patch includes like superduper necessary things like...aquarium fish and a parasol emote. While theres a race in their game that still has to change its entire face if it wants to use its racial hair.

    This is such a lameass excuse honest to god like WE SEE them add new stuff every patch that just plain doesnt work, at all, if you dare to play a race from shb. There is 0 reason to not make every single new hat or hair work for hrothgar and viera but we have "oh its hard oooh they have to add a 2 minute solo instance to msq ooh its so difficult please understand" while two PLAYER RACES get the shitcovered end of the stick. Every single time. For YEARS.
    This.

    Please stop excusing the development team at every turn about "how hard" content is and about "how much" we get.

    These patches are planned out FAR in advance, by people led by a man who would allegedly time their bathroom breaks back in the development of ARR. Rarely ever have they needed to change their course, and often it was for a good reason.

    Meaning everything you guys are pointing out has already been planned for quite a while now. If Hrothgar updates have not been part of that list, it's because the team didn't think they would be relevant. And that has already proven to be a problem, with several players feeling disgruntled at a 3-year wait leading up to meme-worthy and sad updates.

    If this were your race, you wouldn't like it either.

    Here you go if you want more information on the matter.

    So if they can give us detailed stuff and entire systems with "strict budgeting", then fixing stuff such as hairstyles should have been calculated as a part of their to-do list with that budget.
    If they did care, they would have had included it in their to-do list, seen the budget, and allocated resources\organized priorities accordingly.
    And that alone would mean we wouldn't have had minor systems and content being pushed out before Hrothgars had a proper update.
    Because, as it stands, it's obvious it wasn't taken into consideration, and that a rushed job was the preferable way to go about it.

    This isn't even getting into the "Modders do better" argument. That's another can of worms. This is just sheer "what can the devs do". And what they can do is plan things ahead, which they do. And allocate things based on what players actually have been asking for three years, which they did not.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kranel_San View Post
    It's a serious issue when modders are doing far better work than experienced devs.
    The devs do the bare minimum they have to so that they keep production cost down and maximize profit, modders actually care about what they're doing.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Oizen View Post
    The devs do the bare minimum they have to so that they keep production cost down and maximize profit, modders actually care about what they're doing.
    Wouldn't the answer to that just be quitting then? Or at the very least drastically reducing the amount of time you play FFXIV? If you only care about the story content, you can enjoy an entire expansion's worth of content in 3 months and waiting for the last patch to do so. Buying 3 months of subscription at once is cheaper and waiting for the last patch means you'll like be able to buy the expansion on a 50% (or more) discount. You can safely enjoy the majority of an expansion while drastically reducing the money given to Square Enix (Yoshi-P already encourages people to take breaks and play other games anyway)
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    Quote Originally Posted by Johners View Post
    Wouldn't the answer to that just be quitting then? Or at the very least drastically reducing the amount of time you play FFXIV? If you only care about the story content, you can enjoy an entire expansion's worth of content in 3 months and waiting for the last patch to do so. Buying 3 months of subscription at once is cheaper and waiting for the last patch means you'll like be able to buy the expansion on a 50% (or more) discount. You can safely enjoy the majority of an expansion while drastically reducing the money given to Square Enix (Yoshi-P already encourages people to take breaks and play other games anyway)
    Hope you don't own a house, lol.
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