Melee classes are sad in CC

[Gserpent]

What do u say to all the players, reddit, discord, youtubers and tier lists that consistently rank it as the lowest grade melee dps currently. Including the higher skilled reapers who also agree? (I have receipts dont worry).

I'd say they don't know what they're talking about, frankly. And they're probably judging RPR by "omg low DPS" because they don't understand RPR's actual role and purpose.

Buffs and nerfs to classes will happen if they happen. I don't think RPR really needs any, and I think that if it does meaningfully more DPS than it does now, the class will be greatly overpowered because of all the other things it brings to the table... when played correctly. We'll have to wait for 6.2 to see how SE seems to want to handle things. They've mentioned they look at win rates and pick rates, but SCH is pretty near the bottom (especially in pick rates), yet it received no changes in 6.18 - which is good, because it doesn't need any.

So I'm on hopium here, taking it as a potential good sign that they can look beyond questionable data like pick rates and win rates to more objectively measure classes and determine whether or not they need changes. But it'll be 6.2 before we can really make a judgement call either way.

I think RPR could receive some QoL changes or minor buffs here or there and it not really affect anything. "Balanced" doesn't necessarily mean "will become unbalanced if anything changes." But we're talking like a small reduction to Communio cast time, or reducing LB cast animation to 0.80 sec from 1.00 sec, stuff like that. Certainly not the kinds of things people have been asking for in this thread, for the most part.

[ShinyChariot]

They've mentioned they look at win rates and pick rates, but SCH is pretty near the bottom (especially in pick rates), yet it received no changes in 6.18 - which is good, because it doesn't need any.

SCH is based. I can attest to that.

[MonteCristo]

I'd say they don't know what they're talking about, frankly. And they're probably judging RPR by "omg low DPS" because they don't understand RPR's actual role and purpose.

Buffs and nerfs to classes will happen if they happen. I don't think RPR really needs any, and I think that if it does meaningfully more DPS than it does now, the class will be greatly overpowered because of all the other things it brings to the table... when played correctly. We'll have to wait for 6.2 to see how SE seems to want to handle things. They've mentioned they look at win rates and pick rates, but SCH is pretty near the bottom (especially in pick rates), yet it received no changes in 6.18 - which is good, because it doesn't need any.

So I'm on hopium here, taking it as a potential good sign that they can look beyond questionable data like pick rates and win rates to more objectively measure classes and determine whether or not they need changes. But it'll be 6.2 before we can really make a judgement call either way.

I think RPR could receive some QoL changes or minor buffs here or there and it not really affect anything. "Balanced" doesn't necessarily mean "will become unbalanced if anything changes." But we're talking like a small reduction to Communio cast time, or reducing LB cast animation to 0.80 sec from 1.00 sec, stuff like that. Certainly not the kinds of things people have been asking for in this thread, for the most part.

I have to admit i took your advice....got solid but limited(limited=was already doing alot of what was advised) advice from rpr mentors on pvp revival, watched some more selfhelp CC guides,talked with a few other high ranked rprs, adjusted my strat to hybrid tank, and changed my approach to the job. All to find out that....you are still wrong about the job being "just fine the way it is"

[ShinyChariot]

I have to admit i took your advice....got solid but limited(limited=was already doing alot of what was advised) advice from rpr mentors on pvp revival, watched some more selfhelp CC guides,talked with a few other high ranked rprs, adjusted my strat to hybrid tank, and changed my approach to the job. All to find out that....you are still wrong about the job being "just fine the way it is"

That's fair, I'm pretty happy you're on the way. I agree it needs a bit more help to be friendlier in general. Keep it at, my guy.

[MonteCristo]

That's fair, I'm pretty happy you're on the way. I agree it needs a bit more help to be friendlier in general. Keep it at, my guy.

Broke into platinum finally today tho so maybe my credibility is goin up

[Gserpent]

I have to admit i took your advice....got solid but limited(limited=was already doing alot of what was advised) advice from rpr mentors on pvp revival, watched some more selfhelp CC guides,talked with a few other high ranked rprs, adjusted my strat to hybrid tank, and changed my approach to the job. All to find out that....you are still wrong about the job being "just fine the way it is"

What, specifically, do they believe isn't okay the way it is? RPR has good damage, exceptional durability, and probably top 3 teamplay behind only AST and PLD. I really don't see much room for improvements without the class becoming just plain overpowered.

But good on you for working on improving. That already puts you ahead of the vast majority of players. Keep it up and you're guaranteed to make it to crystal