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    Are the reflections on the same Material plane as the source?

    Been wondering if the source is on the same material plane as the reflections? if so why don't we just take the spaceship and just fly to them?
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    You have to traverse the interdimensional rift to reach the reflections. They are not on the same physical plane of existence as the Source.

    Think about how voidsent have to travel to the Source.
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    Initially I was under the impression that they were different dimensions. But considering the Nier raids, it confirms that the reflections do have access to space which begs the question if we can reach them with a ship.
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    The Nier raids don't confirm that actually, due to the Machines coming through a dimensional rift, which one of the Dwarves helps you send them back through along with the data of the Androids.

    They are beyond our reach, physically. You have to have a dimensional gate to traverse the dimensional rift to get to the shards.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Xirean View Post
    Initially I was under the impression that they were different dimensions. But considering the Nier raids, it confirms that the reflections do have access to space which begs the question if we can reach them with a ship.
    Either they exist in the same physical space as the source (Hard to imagine Hydaelyn existing in all of them at the same time but then the aetherial sea is weird and could possibly connect everything even the multiverse into it)
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    Some sort of multiverse stuff

    But yeah they have to exist in some sort of physical space with other planets instead of the sky being magical illusion or some sort.
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    They don’t exist in the same material plane as the Exarch had to use a summoning spell to pull us to the first as opposed to sending a ship to pick us up. There’s also the time drift they used to explain things in Shadowbringers. What I’m still curious about is how the shared interact with the rest of the universe.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Delily View Post
    They don’t exist in the same material plane as the Exarch had to use a summoning spell to pull us to the first as opposed to sending a ship to pick us up. There’s also the time drift they used to explain things in Shadowbringers. What I’m still curious about is how the shared interact with the rest of the universe.
    Does he even have a spaceship to begin with? The crystarium (and the first as a whole) were struggling to hold themselves together.
    But yeah, unless they state that time flows differently in the physical space, we can safely assume the shards are in a different physical space where time can flows differently
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    Quote Originally Posted by Xirean View Post
    Initially I was under the impression that they were different dimensions. But considering the Nier raids, it confirms that the reflections do have access to space which begs the question if we can reach them with a ship.
    Space and other planets exist, but that does not inherently mean that the other shards are planets that exist in that space.

    Everything we've seen so far indicates that the shards exist in parallel universes to the Source. It's possible that they each have their own "space and planets" or the split might be localised and the wider universe remains unsundered.

    (I've theorised before that perhaps if the shards invented space travel, they might be able to cross out of the boundaries of sundered space, but anyone approaching the planet from the outside may only naturally see the Source.)
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