Housing - Round 4

[Johners]

Lost once again and getting a little tired of it, still tons of empty plots in FC only wards which make up 75% of the allocation right now. At this point I’m wondering if I should just okay this game like a single player game and only give SE the fraction of the money I already do, especially when there’s entire systems like housing I basically can’t engage with at all.

[Necrotica]

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[Akira_Kojima]

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The funny thing is SE already has instanced housing with the apartments. If they'd give us the option to increase the space to something similar to a medium then I'd be more than happy to give up my small house

[sagacious]

The funny thing is SE already has instanced housing with the apartments. If they'd give us the option to increase the space to something similar to a medium then I'd be more than happy to give up my small house

If they make a apartments better than a house why have small houses in the first place? If island has gardening and other perks again why have cottages at all? Island cannot be that good.

[Daeriion_Aeradiir]

If they make a apartments better than a house why have small houses in the first place? If island has gardening and other perks again why have cottages at all? Island cannot be that good.

Gil being a big one. Many people aren't in such an amazing gil situation that they can sink 20/50mil into an apartment if the prices were equalized up to match the prices of Medium/Large plots, but they could sink 500k into an apartment, or maybe even 1-3 mil for an add-on expansion of a basement to make them identical to smalls.

There's also just the luxury of having an outdoor plot to decorate and show off that is impossible with apartments, being able to make someone a tenant so you can share the plot and decorate it together, many people would enjoy the idea of owning an actual house than being crammed into the same building with hundreds of others, etc. Small plots would still have their uses & appeals that apartments cannot replicate even if people were given the option of getting bigger apartments.

As far as the topic, while I won it on the previous round, I had to laugh when I logged in and found out I won the last large on Gilgamesh in Empyreum, with like 300 contestants. I actually hit no on the finalizing the sale prompt since I had assumed I lost and was mashing through the text boxes and was so confused why i hadn't gotten my refund, before I checked and read it the 2nd time around and realized I had actually won lol.

[Avoidy]

If they'd give [apartments] the option to increase the space to something similar to a medium then I'd be more than happy to give up my small house

Agreed. If apartments had all the functionality of a house, then way less people would feel bad about just getting an apartment instead.

As it stands , apartments have a lower furniture cap than houses, less actual space to decorate in, and no outdoor area like a patio to house the outdoor furniture this game throws at us. And that's to say nothing of gardening or submarine management, which are just two more systems that most of the community is locked out of even trying.

In my dream world, we would be able to change our home decorations in the same way we change glamour plates. In this way, even when you decorate once, you can save your decoration and continue to be creative without losing anything. Please implement a way for us to save our designs so we can redecorate without losing everything. Doing this, and nothing else, would satisfy a ton of apartment-only types.

Now, I'm not interested in camping this thread, so I'll just address the replies I'll get right now, since it's always the same replies:

>submarine management is group oriented, don't make it a solo activity
Maybe in your rare FC it is somehow, but please go look at the thousands of FCs where submarines are managed by 1 guy while the rest of the FC doesn't even know what it is. Or the armies of shell FCs built just so 1 person can take advantage of that system and have complete control over it. Or the literal RMT farms where they have dozens of shell FCs running subs at the same time in the background while they actively bot and ruin the game. This notion that subs are an FC activity is a joke and has been for a while. If you actually want FC-oriented activities, look at how other games do guild missions and then ask yourself why this game has nothing similar at all.

>gardening is nothing! I have a garden and the system sucks lmao
Congrats, you had the luxury to try it out and decide it wasn't for you. Meanwhile, most people playing the game and paying the same sub as you every month don't even get to really see the whole system. Also passive gil income is awesome, plants are cool, and micromanaging different timers activates happy chemicals for a lot of people. Just because none of these things appeal to you, doesn't mean the system isn't appealing for others.

If you make apartments good, then my house loses value or something
The worst take, yet I always see it. You, a homeowner, are capable of also owning an apartment. Your home also gets to keep that special neighborhood appeal you care about so much. You still have things apartments don't; apartment owners just get to enjoy basic functionality. I always hear this reply from people who purchased a home not for decorative purposes, but because it seemed rare and they wanted to lord its functionality over everyone who couldn't get one.

[Denji]

The funny thing is SE already has instanced housing with the apartments. If they'd give us the option to increase the space to something similar to a medium then I'd be more than happy to give up my small house

for real.

i don't see the point of the small houses. i just won one and it's like... 20 outdoor pieces of furniture? really? that's all? like i know to much'll lag everyone else because of all the houses combined but... 20? what's the point of a yard, then?

i'd take a stereotypical 1 bedroom/bath apartment over a house any day. like. just add a little extension to the current apartments for a small bedroom and optional washroom/closet.

[Padudu]

i'd take a stereotypical 1 bedroom/bath apartment over a house any day. like. just add a little extension to the current apartments for a small bedroom and optional washroom/closet.

I want the neighborhood feel -- we should have a shared laundromat that requires us to wash our glams. We can include vending machines with stale candy and small phasmascapes for a more stale feeling.

In seriousness, I would remove smalls and just put them into apartments tbh. Kind of like a townhome or something, put the demo timer (as if we're going to act as if it's turned on more often than not) and increase the prices to a small.

[Norwynn]

ADD. MORE. WARDS.

[Imora]

I was housing sitting for a friend and her number was 5 and 6 won a crushing defeat to say the least.

Last go round I was 21 and 19 won. I feel this.