Contradictions, Double Standards, Counterintuitive Design

[Katoar]

Again, why should healers deal only 40%-60% of the damage a DPS job can do when every type of content can and has been cleared without any healers?

[Silver-Strider]

Again, why should healers deal only 40%-60% of the damage a DPS job can do when every type of content can and has been cleared without any healers?

Because having that level of a safety net while also being able to match the DPS numbers of equally skilled DPS jobs invalidates those other DPS jobs. MCH already has a hard enough time just competing with BRD and DNC as is without suddenly having to worry about a Healer completing taking their job as well. I could understand increasing Healer/Tank DPS numbers to be at least 75% of a DPS job but there needs to at least be enough of a difference to not cause DPS jobs to be invalid as well.

[Katoar]

Because having that level of a safety net while also being able to match the DPS numbers of equally skilled DPS jobs invalidates those other DPS jobs. MCH already has a hard enough time just competing with BRD and DNC as is without suddenly having to worry about a Healer completing taking their job as well. I could understand increasing Healer/Tank DPS numbers to be at least 75% of a DPS job but there needs to at least be enough of a difference to not cause DPS jobs to be invalid as well.

The solution is simple. Make optimized Healer DPS dependent on the presence of DPS party members. This can be done through unique buffs and unique traits. Machinist is competing against melee jobs as their buttons do not do anything different than those of a melee job. Everything is the same "Deal x amount of potency to target" with a different skill animation.

[Supersnow845]

The solution is simple. Make optimized Healer DPS heavily dependent on the presence of party members. This can be through unique buffs and unique traits. Machinist is competing against melee jobs as their buttons do not do anything different than those of a melee job. Everything is all the same "Deal x amount of potency to target" with a different skill animation.

No machinist is competing with BRD and DNC because of the 5% buff you wouldn’t give up a melee for a MCH or vice versa

[Katoar]

No machinist is competing with BRD and DNC because of the 5% buff you wouldn’t give up a melee for a MCH or vice versa

You would give up a melee for 2 ranged jobs if they did more DPS. But they are artificially gimped to make for the range they have despite mechanics allowing for 100% melee uptime.

[Supersnow845]

You would give up a melee for 2 ranged jobs if they did more DPS. But they are artificially gimped to make for the range they have despite mechanics allowing for 100% melee uptime.

I mean if MCH and melees did the same DPS why would you ever bring a melee, in its current form MCH only competes with BRD and DNC and that tends to work well even if melee get uptime way too easily

[Katoar]

I mean if MCH and melees did the same DPS why would you ever bring a melee

For the 1% party buff increase.

[Liam_Harper]

I mean if MCH and melees did the same DPS why would you ever bring a melee

Why wouldn't you if they do the same dps? There's no downside, they both do the same. If the melee is more fun for you, you'd play the melee. Quite a few players simply don't like ranged.

FF14 players really aren't that obsessed with meta. As long as they can clear content and have their 5% bonus, most of the time they'll bring whatever jobs they can get. Ranged tax is completely unnecessary.