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    Illya Prisma
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    Arcanist Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Renathras View Post
    Consolation before Medica/Medica 2/Cure 3/Rapture can be thought of as Infuriate into Chaotic Cyclone/Inner Chaos. It works the same way, buffing an existing ability it is used before, just it doesn't give M/M2/C3/AR a new and different animation.

    But yes, looking at them holistically, WHM and WAR have similar levels of complexity. WAR's just shows up more because its complexity is in its base damage rotation and WHM's is in its healing kit.

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    I'm confused, are you saying there isn't complexity (a lie) or that it isn't needed (something I agree with)?

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    That was all my argument was.

    ...that and the OP asked if I'd be content with a tank that had a damage rotation like WHM's, to which my answer was "Yeah, sure. I might like that, actually."
    I'm not going to break apart your entire response, but in the above statement, you are saying that plenary indulgence into an AoE heal is equivalent to Infuriate into Inner Chaos... where one is healing and the other is damage (damage being the very thing healers want)

    This is the very thing we are attempting to combat. You say that the complexity for WHM lies in it's healing kit. Okay? Now I just need content where I feel challenged and engaged with all of those "complexities" ( - superfluous and bloated healing kit)

    Oh wait... that content doesn't exist outside of Ultimate. That's probably why Yoshi P told healers to play Ultimate rather than address the problem.

    I'm sorry, but you can't say there is equivalent complexity in a healing kit when nearly all content doesn't call for it.

    Addition:
    In response to your edit, your argument is pointless and off topic. You have drawn a meaningless comparison between two jobs for no apparent reason.

    You insist WAR and WHM are comparably complex, yet one has healing complexity that is almost always untapped and unneeded. And no, I personally do not believe they are equivalent in complexity.

    The only response that has been relevant to the discussion is "Yeah, sure I might like that, actually" to Tanks having 1 DoT/1 Spam GCD/1 AoE GCD.
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    Last edited by IllyaPrisma; 06-17-2022 at 10:51 AM.