[Suggestion] New name for Duty roulette?

[RyuDragnier]

Personally I'd have preferred if all 4-man dungeons and trials required for MSQ, leveling or not, were combined into MSQ roulette. Combine all non-MSQ required dungeons into a single roulette called Optional Dungeon roulette (that gives exp and tomes equal to the current leveling roulette). Keep Expert roulette. When the level cap increases, all previous expansion expert roulette dungeons are tossed into their rightful areas.

[ryouma17]

Personally I'd have preferred if all 4-man dungeons and trials required for MSQ, leveling or not, were combined into MSQ roulette.

no please for the love of Yda do not do this, keep the MSQ roulette as it is now i never want to run castrum meridianum or the praetorium ever again

[RyuDragnier]

no please for the love of Yda do not do this, keep the MSQ roulette as it is now i never want to run castrum meridianum or the praetorium ever again

Even though they're only 20 minutes now? Remember, they reworked them and Ultimate Weapon to be completely different. CM and Prae now take 20-30m tops, with the only cutscenes in CM being when you start, and right before Livia.

[JooceyBravo]

Personally I'd have preferred if all 4-man dungeons and trials required for MSQ, leveling or not, were combined into MSQ roulette. Combine all non-MSQ required dungeons into a single roulette called Optional Dungeon roulette (that gives exp and tomes equal to the current leveling roulette). Keep Expert roulette. When the level cap increases, all previous expansion expert roulette dungeons are tossed into their rightful areas.

I feel like the way the roulettes are currently divided are good as they are, it’s just the naming I'm suggesting the change for.
As more and more expansions come out, we’re going to get 10 levels per expansion unless something drastic is changed with how levels and progression are structured.

If we want to go down the route of redefining how the roulettes are structured, it couldn’t be called “Optional Dungeons” since a lot of them are no longer optional, even in the past we had to unlock them at some point during an expansion to gain access to the Expert roulette.

I don’t think a lot of people would enjoy having the MSQ roulette include things like Tam-Tara and Temple of Qarn, since those are story related, and accessed through the MSQ now. It would make a lot of sense having the three 4-man trials through the 1-50 story accessed through MSQ roulette though, since what we have in that roulette now is all 4-man content.

[RyuDragnier]

I don’t think a lot of people would enjoy having the MSQ roulette include things like Tam-Tara and Temple of Qarn, since those are story related, and accessed through the MSQ now. It would make a lot of sense having the three 4-man trials through the 1-50 story accessed through MSQ roulette though, since what we have in that roulette now is all 4-man content.

Actually, Qarn is 100% optional, nothing requires you to beat it for MSQ. Or at least I can't seem to find a quest requiring it.

[Fayt1203]

Actually, Qarn is 100% optional, nothing requires you to beat it for MSQ. Or at least I can't seem to find a quest requiring it.

they could have change it, but there was a time u had to do Qarn it was not msq quest but the msq would be lock out if people had not done Qarn

[RyuDragnier]

they could have change it, but there was a time u had to do Qarn it was not msq quest but the msq would be lock out if people had not done Qarn

It was like that back in the 2.x series, but I believe they dropped that requirement sometime since then.

On how things would change if we did my idea of Optional and MSQ, here's a list of optional dungeons during the leveling process that would be thrown in the Optional Dungeon roulette:

ARR: Halatali, Qarn, Cutter's Cry, Darkhold, Aurum Vale
HW: Dusk Vigil
SB: Shisui of the Violet Tides.

Those are the only optional leveling dungeons in the game, all the others are mandatory. As for the level cap dungeons before ShB that are mandatory MSQ (other than CM and Prae), we only have:

ARR: Snowcloak, Keeper of the Lake
HW: Aetherchemical Research Facility, Antitower, Sohr Khai, Xelphatol, Baelsar's Wall
SB: Ala Mhigo, Drowned City of Skalla, The Burn, Ghimlyt Dark

All those would be thrown into MSQ roulette (albeit with skippable cutscenes).

[TalithaSolarien]

Actually, Qarn is 100% optional, nothing requires you to beat it for MSQ. Or at least I can't seem to find a quest requiring it.

If you want to level up your Grand Company standing (which is completely optional) then you have to run Quarn (Aurum Vale and Dezmael as well). But nothing in the MSQ requires it otherwise.

[TaleraRistain]

Actually, Qarn is 100% optional, nothing requires you to beat it for MSQ. Or at least I can't seem to find a quest requiring it.

It used to be required but I think they removed the post-ARR quest that required it. You had to go get a stone for a quest in Mor Dhona IIRC.

To the OP, they could just change the name to "Level 50+ Dungeons"

That's how my friends and I identify it now for sake of ease

[JooceyBravo]

To the OP, they could just change the name to "Level 50+ Dungeons"

That's how my friends and I identify it now for sake of ease

The problem for me is that isn’t exactly right, because saying 50+ to me means 50-90 not, dungeons at x0 level.

The dungeons in that roulette were at one point in time, released as max level dungeons for their respective expansions, hence the “Legacy Cap”.