Dancer’s Limit Break feels comparatively underwhelming

[MellowMink]

Ninja can have two back-to-back limit break attacks that instantly kill an enemy away from them that’s under 50% health.

Samurai’s limit break can murder someone with full health so long as they’re first hit with a melee attack that doesn’t take long to reload, such an attack that you’ll likely have ready before planning to use your limit break.

Reaper’s limit break temporarily affects enemy movements and then kicks off a set of powerful attack utilities; the key thing here is that it does more than just movement stuff.

Dancer… temporarily affects enemy movements for such a small amount of time… in an awkward way that leaves your character really vulnerable while it’s activating… and in such a practice that it doesn’t seem to always take effect in a quick manner… and that it’s really difficult to land a follow-up attack to slightly extend that tiny amount of time… and that’s it. No additional utilities are made available like with Reaper, which also has a movement-related effect. No damage associated with the limit break. In some cases, you can argue that the current implementation puts you in a worse situation than if you hadn’t casted it.

I feel like some additional effect needs to be added to Dancer’s limit break so that it comparatively feels better, or at least raise the time and fix the jankiness so that its extension effect doesn’t feel luck-based to activate.

[Gserpent]

DNC has a *15 yard* AOE that breaks guard, forces movement, can't be cleansed, and can be extended up to 4 sec if they're attacked by the DNC. And unlike what the visuals might entail, if you are inside the AOE when it begins, you will be hit by the effect even if you are outside the visible AOE when the cast completes.

It's an *extremely* good LB (are there any LBs that *aren't* "extremely good"?), but it does have a pretty high skill floor before you can begin making effective use of it, because it has a long cast time and it tends to make people focus the DNC. High risk, high reward. It's fine. Reducing the cast time or anything like that would require a reduction in AOE, duration, etc.

[KizuyaKatogami]

It's an *extremely* good LB (are there any LBs that *aren't* "extremely good"?),

Bard? Where you as a ranged dps have to be basically beside all of your party members when you activate it otherwise it won’t hit them. Or if they’re behind any walls it also won’t hit them.

[Lammas]

Bard? Where you as a ranged dps have to be basically beside all of your party members when you activate it otherwise it won’t hit them. Or if they’re behind any walls it also won’t hit them.

If there's no wall between you then you most definitely don't have to be beside them. Take a look at the radius on the tooltip. It's 30 yalms, that's huge.

That said BRD LB is kinda weak. The LOS blocking hurts it a lot.

[KizuyaKatogami]

If there's no wall between you then you most definitely don't have to be beside them. Take a look at the radius on the tooltip. It's 30 yalms, that's huge.

That said BRD LB is kinda weak. The LOS blocking hurts it a lot.

Right, which is why typically in my experience the 30 malms doesn’t mean much especially on the fire map and even sometimes the sharlayan map because there’s so many damn corners. But yeah it’s just a weak lb overall.

[Gserpent]

I don't think it would be especially gamebreaking to make BRD ult ignore LOS. I think most things should obey it, but given its limitations and the fact it *only* affects allies, I think ignoring LOS would be fine. Maybe reduce the radius to 15yd at that point, though, so you can't buff your team from literally halfway across the map.