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    Coletergeist's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by YukikoKurosawa View Post
    What, specific, lost actions? Which drop randomly and I have to farm for anyway? With no guarantee I will get the one I want or need. I have many by this point already. But if the answer is "go back to bozja and spend potentially hours grinding to in hopes RNG will award you with the lost action you need" I will not bother.
    You can buy them off MB for like, super cheap. And I believe you can get exchange clusters for some, too. If you do the content often, you will have a lot you don't even know what to do with with them because they toss them at you like candy tbh.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kaurhz View Post
    They help dramatically. I can almost guarantee you that a group of 2-4 with lost actions will clear Delubrum Reginae a while lot faster than a traditional group where nobody uses lost actions whatsoever.
    Is this true?

    Tried doing it with someone. We both used lost actions. We were killed by the first boss's party stack mechanic.

    I'm not saying I'm with OP's Karen level outburst - I did the content when it was current and can farm all the parts for more relics from other content/places. I just know I tried it and, at the time, two people attempting to clear was NOT possible. Maybe they've changed it since.

    I did feel, even at the time (the initial Castrum under-rewarding and over-punishing to the point if you didn't do it at the start, you couldn't get a clear and get to the next part of the quest for something like three months) that they didn't do a great job of futureproofing Bozja. Eureka honestly turned out far better since there wasn't so much gating until the very end, and the only thing you're locked out of if you don't do BA is the Ozma mount and the +2 gear, which you don't need for glam and is only useful in Eureka itself.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Renathras View Post
    Is this true?

    Tried doing it with someone. We both used lost actions. We were killed by the first boss's party stack mechanic.

    I'm not saying I'm with OP's Karen level outburst - I did the content when it was current and can farm all the parts for more relics from other content/places. I just know I tried it and, at the time, two people attempting to clear was NOT possible. Maybe they've changed it since.

    I did feel, even at the time (the initial Castrum under-rewarding and over-punishing to the point if you didn't do it at the start, you couldn't get a clear and get to the next part of the quest for something like three months) that they didn't do a great job of futureproofing Bozja. Eureka honestly turned out far better since there wasn't so much gating until the very end, and the only thing you're locked out of if you don't do BA is the Ozma mount and the +2 gear, which you don't need for glam and is only useful in Eureka itself.
    Well post-Endwalker release you were granted the echo proportional to the number of people in the party. So that in combination with the appropriate use of Lost Actions is sufficient enough. I think duo the stack marker does around 100K damage. Duo with a lost action and the Echo basically eats it.
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    Mira Clearweaver
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    Quote Originally Posted by Renathras View Post
    Is this true?

    Tried doing it with someone. We both used lost actions. We were killed by the first boss's party stack mechanic.
    Lining up with Mikoto will force her to share the damage (which she ultimately negates anyway). If you didn't do this, then it's probably one of the reason why you died.

    Also like somebody had mentioned earlier in the thread, the scaling happens when the players entered the instance. If you enter an instance with 4 players then 2 of them bailed, then the remaining two will have to deal with a scaling adjusted for 4 players.
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    Last edited by Rein_eon_Osborne; 06-16-2022 at 04:50 AM.

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    Or just, you know, use party finder.

    Not sure why you have such an aversion to group finding tools in game.
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    Quote Originally Posted by YukikoKurosawa View Post
    Multiple times qued, each time I get 1 or 2 other people after an obnoxious 10 minute wait time. Most of the time people just drop seeing the few numbers. Of the times at least 1 of 2 people actually stay we can't even dent the first boss without getting one-shot.
    Correct me if I'm wrong, but doesn't the raid scale depending on the amount of people that queued for it? If so little amount of people are joining the raid, it should be easy af? Unless that's just CLL, been a while since I've done Delubrum Reginae, but could swear it's the same case.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Coletergeist View Post
    Correct me if I'm wrong, but doesn't the raid scale depending on the amount of people that queued for it? If so little amount of people are joining the raid, it should be easy af? Unless that's just CLL, been a while since I've done Delubrum Reginae, but could swear it's the same case.
    No. There is zero scaling under a certain player number based on my experiences. It likely scales to a minimum number (maybe around 10), but lower than that and it just becomes effectively undoable. The damage we were doing in my attempt today, even with lost actions, was almost nonexistent.

    Even if we did clear it it would likely take an obscene amount of time.
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    Quote Originally Posted by YukikoKurosawa View Post
    No. There is zero scaling under a certain player number based on my experiences. It likely scales to a minimum number (maybe around 10), but lower than that and it just becomes effectively undoable. The damage we were doing in my attempt today, even with lost actions, was almost nonexistent.
    Ah, well...
    I wouldn't say undoable, more difficult probably, but not undoable. Lost actions would make it easier, but you're allergic to those.

    Quote Originally Posted by YukikoKurosawa View Post
    Even if we did clear it it would likely take an obscene amount of time.
    I mean, if you want to get it done, just take the time to do it and get it out of the way, even if it takes the entire time allowed in there.
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    Player YukikoKurosawa's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Coletergeist View Post
    I mean, if you want to get it done, just take the time to do it and get it out of the way, even if it takes the entire time allowed in there.
    "Bro just waste a massive chunk of your time on something incredibly badly balanced and unfun"

    How about I just go do something else with my time instead and abandon this stupid quest and forget it even exists?
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    Quote Originally Posted by YukikoKurosawa View Post
    "Bro just waste a massive chunk of your time on something incredibly badly balanced and unfun"

    How about I just go do something else with my time instead?
    I mean, yeah? Why don't you then?
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