level up crafting with leves only?

[VanillaChinchilla]

Oh, dear.
Just to start, the "X item of Y Color" items are ALL from Dated recipes, that is, they are recipes that are being phased out of the game. Whereas Lodestone has all the recipes if you go to www.mooglebox.com and select only (new) recipes it should be giving you a list of recipes that are easier to use to level.
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thats too bad that the recipes I am being rewarded for doing crafting leves are outdated and being phased out.
I was thinking I would look good in a black straw hat. kinda sad I cant make one.
If I keep doing the crafting leves will I eventually be rewarded one of the new recipe I can use?

[Skies]

thats too bad that the recipes I am being rewarded for doing crafting leves are outdated and being phased out.
I was thinking I would look good in a black straw hat. kinda sad I cant make one.
If I keep doing the crafting leves will I eventually be rewarded one of the new recipe I can use?

Hrm! I may have used the english language poorly, it's not my mother language, I apologize. By "X item of Y color" I meant the 'part' recipes like "Hempen Outer Cowl (Brown)". The finished colored items are actually part of the non-dated new recipes.

However, you do not need to actually earn the recipes through Leves to be able to craft them! If you simply throw, say a Hempen Yarn, Sheep Leather and Undyed Hempen Cloth in your 'ingredient list', you will have a list of ALL possible recipes with these items, it's generally just one but it can be more. The Awarded Recipes are simply to facilitate your selection and to teach you what you can do, however sites like mooglebox will list all the recipes for you, hell, they're also buried somewhere within the Lodestone.

Once again, apologies for the misuse of the language

[VanillaChinchilla]

However, you do not need to actually earn the recipes through Leves to be able to craft them! If you simply throw, say a Hempen Yarn, Sheep Leather and Undyed Hempen Cloth in your 'ingredient list', you will have a list of ALL possible recipes with these items, it's generally just one but it can be more. The Awarded Recipes are simply to facilitate your selection and to teach you what you can do, however sites like mooglebox will list all the recipes for you, hell, they're also buried somewhere within the Lodestone.

Ok thanks so I dont need the recipe to craft something? So there is a use for all this stuff I gathered?

I just tried it out, I put two pieces of Moko Grass in the boxes and it let me make hempen yarn.
But, it only showed the recipe when I had all of the ingredients in place (one piece of moko grass in each box)

I didnt see a list of recipes when I just had one piece of Moko Grass in a box, I had to look the recipe up on Mooglebox.
Did I do something wrong? It would be easier if it did show a list of all the recipes possible from just one ingredient

[Skies]

Ok thanks so I dont need the recipe to craft something? So there is a use for all this stuff I gathered?

I just tried it out, I put two pieces of Moko Grass in the boxes and it let me make hempen yarn.
But, it only showed the recipe when I had all of the ingredients in place (one piece of moko grass in each box)

I didnt see a list of recipes when I just had one piece of Moko Grass in a box, I had to look the recipe up on Mooglebox.
Did I do something wrong? It would be easier if it did show a list of all the recipes possible from just one ingredient

Indeed, you did nothing at all wrong. The system is de-facto obnoxious and even the development team agrees on that, such that they are changing it, however the entire recipe selection method can unfortunately only be changed come 2.0, wherein it will definitely be far more intuitive, it seems.

But for now, yes, you need to place every single item in a recipe in the boxes, and then you will be given a choice of which recipes that use exclusively what is in the boxes that you want to make. Unfortunately difficult, but they are going to resolve it.

Also as Estellios mentioned, the "Recipes" tab is, indeed, for recently-made recipes. (also do check his post, good tips there)

[VanillaChinchilla]

Indeed, you did nothing at all wrong. The system is de-facto obnoxious and even the development team agrees on that, such that they are changing it, however the entire recipe selection method can unfortunately only be changed come 2.0, wherein it will definitely be far more intuitive, it seems.

Ok great, now I know how it works. It would be nice to have a list of recipes in game but its actually more fun and experimental the way it is. I just put some hemp thread and cloth into the box and discovered a list of recipes. I made myself a scarf that makes my character look like a bandit now!

I thought this game was like other MMO and you had to have the recipe first, which is why I thought I couldnt make a straw hat, but it also makes more sense that my character can figure out how to make straw hat on his own if he has the ingredients. Im sure its not a huge secret how to make a straw hat lol
But I am in Gridannia, so the black straw hat will have to wait, I havnt decided if I should spend the 2500Gil on an airship trip to another city yet.

Now that ive crafted a few items, I agree with what other people have said that using leves to level up crafting is the best.
I only got about 200 xp for the couple things I crafted and you can only craft one thing at a time which is time consuming, so leves are a much faster and efficient way of leveling, plus you get bonus rewards also.
But I am still going to see what other neat stuff I can craft along the way

[Melinia]

I thought this game was like other MMO and you had to have the recipe first

Older MMOs, such as Everquest and Final Fantasy XI, allowed you to try to make whatever you wanted so long as you had the required items. You might be told the items needed via a book (Everquest) or an NPC conversation (FFXI), or looking them up online, but the game itself never bothered to track which recipes you "knew". Crafting systems that require you to acquire the recipe before you can craft an item are a newer phenomenon (relatively speaking - they've been around for a while now).

[REDace0]

thats too bad that the recipes I am being rewarded for doing crafting leves are outdated and being phased out.
I was thinking I would look good in a black straw hat. kinda sad I cant make one.
If I keep doing the crafting leves will I eventually be rewarded one of the new recipe I can use?

You can make a Black Straw Hat. You'll just have to buy the materials from the wards. The All-Purpose Black Dye will probably be the most expensive item.

You also don't need to earn a recipe first to make it. That will be the case in 2.0, but you'll acquire recipes by more means than just leves. You just have to select a square in the grid and then select an item from your inventory to add it.