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  1. 06-14-2022 10:13 PM #1
    LeonKeyh
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    My expectation:

    1) Wheeling Thrust and Fang and Claw replace True Thrust and are no longer placed on hot bars. Combo becomes:

    True Thrust -> Disembowel -> Chaotic Spring -> [Wheeling Thrust/Fang and Claw/Raiden Thrust] (same button) -> Vorpal Thrust -> Heavens' Thrust -> [Fang and Claw/Wheeling Thrust/Raiden Thrust] (same button) -> Disembowel (Repeat)


    2) AoEs become CIRCLES!!!!!!!!!!


    I honestly, can't think of anything else that they would do. Which is really scary tbh.
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  2. 06-14-2022 11:29 PM #2
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    Quote Originally Posted by LeonKeyh View Post

    2) AoEs become CIRCLES!!!!!!!!!!
    This is the one thing I expect them to leave alone. DRG has 6(!!) line AoEs and only 2 circle AoEs, which are both on a fairly long cool down. Lines are built so deeply into DRG that it has become its entire identity. Coerthan Torment and Wyrmwind Thrust doubled down on that.

    If anything, I expect Dragonfire Dive and Stardiver to be combined into one skill, where DD upgrades to SD and gets a potency boost to compensate.
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  3. 06-19-2022 02:13 AM #3
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    Quote Originally Posted by WlyemR View Post
    Lines are built so deeply into DRG that it has become its entire identity
    I mean, the identity is "spear user". You can't really swing a spear in circles efficiently
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    Quote Originally Posted by Chris310 View Post
    I mean, the identity is "spear user". You can't really swing a spear in circles efficiently
    To be fair katanas aren't supposed to be used for primarily thrusting, either. It's doable but not efficient.

    On the topic, I just expect them to pare down skills they deem "extra". Dragonfire Dive, Life Surge, Merging Wheeling and Fang, off the top of my head. Lance Charge could be removed. Auto crits and potency shifts away from your Life phase.
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  5. 06-19-2022 07:05 AM #5
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    TBH I fully expected Stardiver to be a flip-over from Dragonfire Dive and I personally wouldn't mind if that's where they went with it. Culling slots for skills you're using once or twice per minute is IMO the least sacrificial way to trim the amount of buttons if that is necessary.
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    Quote Originally Posted by LeonKeyh View Post
    My expectation:

    1) Wheeling Thrust and Fang and Claw replace True Thrust and are no longer placed on hot bars. Combo becomes:

    True Thrust -> Disembowel -> Chaotic Spring -> [Wheeling Thrust/Fang and Claw/Raiden Thrust] (same button) -> Vorpal Thrust -> Heavens' Thrust -> [Fang and Claw/Wheeling Thrust/Raiden Thrust] (same button) -> Disembowel (Repeat)


    2) AoEs become CIRCLES!!!!!!!!!!


    I honestly, can't think of anything else that they would do. Which is really scary tbh.
    I mean, to be fair, Fang and Claw and Wheeling Thrust ARE the same button. They were poorly designed trash in Heavensward and not much has really changed now other than they aren't random garbage combo enders now. They're SET garbage combo enders. Always wondered why we got that instead of penta thrust to end combos or something. But, we'll just have to see what they'll do with dragoon. I mean if they make the whole life of the dragon thing actually interesting and not just passively built that'd be great, but after seeing how they screwed over samurai, I have little hope they'll do anything that'll be taken well by the players. Still, I definitely wouldn't complain if they removed F&C because its sister action just sort of came off to me as the devs rushing to meet a timeline for designing class abilities.
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  7. 06-15-2022 08:18 AM #7
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    Quote Originally Posted by LeonKeyh View Post
    My expectation:

    1) Wheeling Thrust and Fang and Claw replace True Thrust and are no longer placed on hot bars. Combo becomes:

    True Thrust -> Disembowel -> Chaotic Spring -> [Wheeling Thrust/Fang and Claw/Raiden Thrust] (same button) -> Vorpal Thrust -> Heavens' Thrust -> [Fang and Claw/Wheeling Thrust/Raiden Thrust] (same button) -> Disembowel (Repeat)


    2) AoEs become CIRCLES!!!!!!!!!!


    I honestly, can't think of anything else that they would do. Which is really scary tbh.
    My personal bet:

    Life Surge is removed and Heaven's Thrust becomes auto-crit
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  8. 06-15-2022 06:07 PM #8
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rolder50 View Post
    My personal bet:

    Life Surge is removed and Heaven's Thrust becomes auto-crit
    Since SAM is not reverted it's literally not only this one but also Fang and Claw and Wheeling Thrust because you use surge on fang in opener (and wheeling is basically same).
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