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    Maybe a controversial opinion, but I actually think DRG could lose a dmg cd.
    I think three are perhaps too many not to mention Dragon Sight needs to target swap, I mean if people want to keep Dragon Sight because it's more unique then maybe just buff its damage and/ or make it a shorter cd or even just give Battle Litany a damage buff or merge Dragon Sight and Battle Litany into one buff I dunno there's so many different things that can be done.

    DRG is already really busy having three cd's just feel a bit much.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kolsykol View Post
    Maybe a controversial opinion, but I actually think DRG could lose a dmg cd.
    I think three are perhaps too many not to mention Dragon Sight needs to target swap, I mean if people want to keep Dragon Sight because it's more unique then maybe just buff its damage and/ or make it a shorter cd or even just give Battle Litany a damage buff or merge Dragon Sight and Battle Litany into one buff I dunno there's so many different things that can be done.

    DRG is already really busy having three cd's just feel a bit much.
    I am not angry, I am disappointed.
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    Quote Originally Posted by butchersblock View Post
    I am not angry, I am disappointed.
    At me?
    Do you think that three dmg cd's is fun?
    I really think that either Lance Charge could go or Battle Litany and Dragon Sight could be merged.

    Quote Originally Posted by Mesarthim View Post
    I don't play DRG aside from leveling it each expansion but I can imagine them turning DRG aoes into circles. SE logic: "War cone bad, old AST bad, Sam cone bad, not a circle? bad". It's sad because you know it isn't entirely impossible from prior experiences in this game.

    As a former pre-ShB AST main (funny how they can't stop changing it so many years later), and from the general SAM discontent around these parts, I'd temper your expectations and assume it will not be an appreciated change.
    I kinda liked moving around and lining up the AoE on SAM.
    But I am also not too fuzzed about the circle thing, I view it as a convenience thing.

    I care more about single target rotations too, AoE is just dungeon trash stuff.
    But yeah imho I think people made too big of a deal out of the circle AoE changes, ultimately it's not the same thing as removing stuff or whatever.
    It wasn't exactly a pressing issue or anything I ever thought of but I am not really upset about it either.

    They did the same on MNK too and I do prefer it, part of that might be the faster gcd too tho.
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    Last edited by Kolsykol; 06-18-2022 at 06:35 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kolsykol View Post
    At me?
    Do you think that three dmg cd's is fun?
    The entire point of DRG is the intensive weaving, so yeah?
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    Quote Originally Posted by ThorneDynasty View Post
    The entire point of DRG is the intensive weaving, so yeah?
    To me weaving damage skills and damage buffs are very different tho, I don't find weaving Lance Charge particularly fun.
    Life Surge can be fun because of the crits it's a directly more impactful thing.
    But I find weaving three damage buffs to be a bit weird and meh because you're weaving so much that doesn't have any real direct feedback.

    Weaving Nastrond or Wyrmwind Thrust on the other hand does have direct feedback and is fun to weave.
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    As an AST, who's about to also go through this with you, but has also gone through this multiple times before:



    (Seriously, though, all I can suggest is to really complain in game and out, if you really don't like whatever changes they drop on you. This is a DPS class, so they might actually give at least the tiniest of fucks.)
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    Quote Originally Posted by MintnHoney View Post
    (Seriously, though, all I can suggest is to really complain in game and out, if you really don't like whatever changes they drop on you. This is a DPS class, so they might actually give at least the tiniest of fucks.)
    Honestly I doubt it. I think Endwalker is the DPS' time to take the L
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    As someone whose main healer is AST and current main dps DRG....yeah, I'm terrified by the upcoming patch.

    I doubt they'll change line aoes, a lot of the skills this expansion added across classes are line aoes, so they seem to really love them.

    But they say they wanna make it less busy, so I imagine the single target rotation dumbed down a lot (sigh). I have no clue how they'd do that though.
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    As a casual DRG player I wouldn't mind if they got rid of the buttons for Fang and Claw and Wheeling Thrust and put them on their respective combo button. That being said I am worried that Life Surge gets deleted akin to how Kaiten was and full thrust turned into an Auto Crit because making jobs synergize less with the design path SE has chosen is pretty par for the course for them.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Amenara View Post
    As a casual DRG player I wouldn't mind if they got rid of the buttons for Fang and Claw and Wheeling Thrust and put them on their respective combo button. That being said I am worried that Life Surge gets deleted akin to how Kaiten was and full thrust turned into an Auto Crit because making jobs synergize less with the design path SE has chosen is pretty par for the course for them.
    my main issue is when are they finally gonna realize that this shit with "let's change jobs each major patch" isn't going to work in the long term.
    people are already anxious about the next 2 jobs that are on the chopping block (AST and DRG) SAM is currently still going strong in the outcry over Kaitens removal and just the general direction.
    why not pool all of these reworks for 7.0, that would atleast avoid another endwalker job trailer disaster, where the only thing you would be interested in is ... reaper and sage, since the rest is basically more of the same.
    only things that will stand out is the new actions added (like confiteor 2,3 and 4 for Paladin or monkey flip for Warrior)
    this way players won't be blind sided by the random change (like Kaitens removal and the job feeling like it's hitting with foam swords)

    also 1 very important thing that honestly, FF14 desperately needs.
    an PUBLIC TEST SERVER! not talking about an PTS for actual content, just for testing job balancing, inbetween each major patch they'll add the proposed changes to an PTS and from there people can test them out (because honestly, some on the balance discord are 100x more knowledgable than the actual SE job balance staff)
    this would fix a lot of issues right from the get go. (also anything you do won't transfer to the actual game obviously)
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