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    Botting on the marketboard. Impossible to sell anything.

    I can't sell a single thing on the marketboard to make money for ports. Every time I try someone undercuts me within a few minutes. I doubt there are people changing 15 item's prices once every few minutes. Is there nothing that can be done about this? Maybe making it so people can only change prices once a hour/day?
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    Tarqaron Malaguld
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    Leviathan
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    Dark Knight Lv 90
    This is an issue that has been since years ago.
    People use bots to drop prices for either 1 gil to 1k.
    I have reported so many times these people and... guess what? They are still out there. Making millions in gil.

    I dedicated two whole days in research for these characters and their retainers, learned their "timers", spawn spots, even their names, free companies, etc.

    Nothing... they still out there. So... for now, you are in the same boat as many of us.
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    Last edited by Adephagos; 06-14-2022 at 06:15 AM.

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    Tarqaron Malaguld
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    You can see more of this issue from posts since 2020:

    Reddit:
    https://www.reddit.com/r/ffxiv/comme...games_economy/

    FFXIV Post:
    https://na.finalfantasyxiv.com/lodes.../blog/4571972/

    You can google this "issue" and is present in ALL datacenters.
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    Jojoya Joya
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    With respect to the bots, the most you can go is report them to the STF for investigation.

    With respect to making gil selling crafted items on the marketboard, pick different items to sell. I'm selling some low level items for more than what Classical is currently priced at on my world. There are thousands of items to choose from and always something that will yield a profit.

    Also, don't worry about getting undercut. If you're choosing smart and the supply is less than demand, your item will still end up selling. Use sales history to compare how many of an item have sold recently versus how many are currently listed for sale to figure out what items are underrepresented.
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    Bad Lucky
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    Arcanist Lv 100
    I’ve been selling a bunch of stuff, and no idea why you’re struggling.
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    Prrringles Purrrfect
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    Red Mage Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Bad_Luck View Post
    I’ve been selling a bunch of stuff, and no idea why you’re struggling.
    This isn't helpful at all. Define "bunch" and "stuff". Because 2 might be a bunch and fishing bait might be stuff.

    Anyway, as a market board guru myself I have also been struggling to sell items in meaningful quantities for a decent profit. I sell my usual lower lvl items for high prices but they sell slow. There has definately been an increase in bots. Prices have never been this low across the board and the amount of RMT free companies (1x 90 crafter + 8x lvl 22~23 mules) popping up is rediculous. Then there is the new hype too. Server transfer to Japan, buyout the market board and resell for x2 on the US/EU server. Luckily this destroys itself as prices on my datacenter have totally collapsed for these items. The Faux Leave mounts used to go for between 12-14 mil. Now they are going for 6-8 mil because of above mentioned. Same goes for the other mounts and high end minions.

    I never cared about bots and always kept improvising, adepting and overcomming (thanks mister Grills). But recently I kind of lost interest in crafting/selling overall because of the exploding bot/rmt problem. To me this says a lot.

    TLDR: OP is right. No matter if "anyone" is selling a "bunch" of "stuff". Botting/RMT has increased dramatically and is a real problem. I don't think any real market board player can deny this.

    EDIT: Inb4 "sell other items no one is selling". This is not a solution to the problem. Anyone should be able to compete over selling any item they want. Bots totally defeat any form of competition. Since SE rarely takes action against said bots/rmt I think a solution is, unfortunately, far off and all we can do is complain and ventilate our frustrations.
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    Last edited by Prrringles; 06-15-2022 at 05:33 PM.

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    Emil Villeneuve
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    Zodiark
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    Paladin Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Bad_Luck View Post
    I’ve been selling a bunch of stuff, and no idea why you’re struggling.
    "The issue does not affect me, therefore it does note exist"
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    What if there was a cool down period of items showing on the market board after you change the price? Lets say you adjust the price then put it back on the board. Perhaps it can take like 5 to 10 minutes before it shows on the Market Board for purchase.


    I can't remember which MMO it was, but they charge a listing a fee when you add an item to the Market Board AND when you update/change the price.
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    Darkmoonrise Valky
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    Sage Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by rahz View Post
    I can't remember which MMO it was, but they charge a listing a fee when you add an item to the Market Board AND when you update/change the price.
    The Secret World did that IIRC
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  10. 06-15-2022 12:17 AM
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