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    Quote Originally Posted by Padudu View Post
    Sure buddy, I'd love to see what "feasible" solutions you came up with in this thread. Unless I missed something, I mostly just saw "there's nothing wrong with the way they're doing things."

    Which, all the power to you if you think that way. But to dismiss it as simple complaints is just straight insufferable.
    The complaints are what's insufferable. You can't even point to a game that has achieved the level of perfection you're seeking out. You're asking the impossible and making claims about a company when you really have no clue what's really going on there. Show me where this precedent has been set and I'll accept this as more than just idle complaints. This is not any kind of defense, just straight facts and you can't accept them.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Deveryn View Post
    The complaints are what's insufferable. You can't even point to a game that has achieved the level of perfection you're seeking out. You're asking the impossible and making claims about a company when you really have no clue what's really going on there. Show me where this precedent has been set and I'll accept this as more than just idle complaints. This is not any kind of defense, just straight facts and you can't accept them.
    How is it asking the impossible to expect the devs to keep their word when it comes to race exclusive hairstyles for hrothgar. How is it asking the impossible to expect reused gear to at the very least be dyable in an expansion where we missed out on an entire set of gear? Like please explain this to me why we got less on release than prior expansions despite the game making the most money yet and retaining the most players yet.
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    People going over each other's necks is getting to me, this place is so toxic for me. Makes me feel like back in league but its all passive agressiveness no one calls out.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Deveryn View Post
    The complaints are what's insufferable. You can't even point to a game that has achieved the level of perfection you're seeking out. You're asking the impossible and making claims about a company when you really have no clue what's really going on there. Show me where this precedent has been set and I'll accept this as more than just idle complaints. This is not any kind of defense, just straight facts and you can't accept them.
    Who is asking for perfection? I am asking for SE to step up their standards a bit, that's all. Also "what impossible claims"? Saying that they've dropped the ball when they definitely have isn't really an impossible claim, it's the truth.

    I'd like to invite you to read over Midareyukki's wonderful thread about the multiple times SE has straight up lied about the ear fiasco and claims about how hard their model is to work.

    or this entire thread right here about Lyse's attire, where it was originally separated and they made it into an undyable onesie. So strange that the detractors of this btw, who defended it being a onesie suddenly didn't have much to say after it was proven that it was separated into pieces!

    or maybe Yoshi's quite callous response to healers wanting their rotation to be something more than 2-1-1-1-1 and wanting to feel like that actually contribute. You can go look in the healer subforum if you want unhappy players there too!

    Of course, there's the whole SAM kaiten removal, the housing bug, ect. I could go on and on. Back on topic of this thread, yes, reskins are normal. However, just think for a moment about what Endwalker was supposed to be - a big finale, a big, happy finish for a 10 year old story. We get..
    - to fight Fandaniel like 3 times
    - half of the armor sets reskinned
    - back to back undyable, onesie mogstation outfits
    - a less than stellar EX3
    -less variety overall

    I think this is just more of a compounding issues more than anything. In any case, yeah reskins are normal. But you have a content drought and issue upon issue ever since the launch, the reskins and the lack of care seems to be more obvious than ever. Of course, there are no "hard facts", just like SE defenders who want to defend tooth and nail that SE is truly sparing no expense, they can't prove that either lol. Hey though, if you want to keep ignoring glaring problems that even new players can't ignore, more power to you.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Minarisweet View Post
    People going over each other's necks is getting to me, this place is so toxic for me. Makes me feel like back in league but its all passive agressiveness no one calls out.
    welcome to the forums
    please stay a while
    you'll soon find that even paying the sub becomes passive agressive
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    Quote Originally Posted by KizuyaKatogami View Post
    How is it asking the impossible to expect the devs to keep their word when it comes to race exclusive hairstyles for hrothgar. How is it asking the impossible to expect reused gear to at the very least be dyable in an expansion where we missed out on an entire set of gear? Like please explain this to me why we got less on release than prior expansions despite the game making the most money yet and retaining the most players yet.
    I actually explained why on page 5.

    Quote Originally Posted by Deveryn View Post
    I've been thinking about this some more.

    The intro to Endwalker just doesn't lend itself to exploring new and varied styles as previous expansions. Only two of the six areas we go to have anything to offer as far as culture and dress. They likely went back to Stormblood for crafted gear for that link back to Zenos.

    Hopefully, we'll see more as we start on our new adventures.
    I actually made an effort to see the other side of things. I saw that we got less and asked myself why. I came to a logical conclusion. Norvrandt offered varied styles and cultures to work with, as did Stormblood.

    It's honestly hard to make a proper comparison, when we're not even done with all the expansion content. About the only one to make is with artifact gear being more readily available and easier to get dye options for.




    As for Hrothgar. I don't know and honestly don't care. It escaped my mind when I think of "all the complaints". Half the ones I see look cringe ignoring the hair. And an Au Ra player is complaining about it. Do you even care or are you just complaining for the hell of it? I don't really care about that answer either.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Padudu View Post

    ...- half of the armor sets reskinned...
    while i do think more model variety would be nice, especially with how big the game is rn, reskins arent a new thing.
    even most of the 1.0 gear has like 3 reskins per model, and that version of the game had big square money
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lihtleita View Post
    while i do think more model variety would be nice, especially with how big the game is rn, reskins arent a new thing.
    even most of the 1.0 gear has like 3 reskins per model, and that version of the game had big square money
    I've already said that reskins aren't a new thing, I'm saying it's much more obvious now since the launch of EW has more or less than marred with problems.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lihtleita View Post
    while i do think more model variety would be nice, especially with how big the game is rn, reskins arent a new thing.
    even most of the 1.0 gear has like 3 reskins per model, and that version of the game had big square money
    I remember someone going over how many reskins each expansion has on Reddit, and Endwalker has more reskins then the other expansions. So while reskins aren't new, they're more common then they have been. Which is odd when the game is making bank, no?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rolder50 View Post
    I remember someone going over how many reskins each expansion has on Reddit, and Endwalker has more reskins then the other expansions. So while reskins aren't new, they're more common then they have been. Which is odd when the game is making bank, no?
    even though i agree wholeheartedly (i miss sb gear in a lot of ways) im going to play devils avocado and say this is due to the visual overhaul in 7.0. combined with square not assigning enough modelers to the xiv team.
    not only are we getting more reskins, but a lot of roles share the same model. instead of getting 7 outfits per tomeset we get like 3 and a spare shoulderpad.
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