Can you stop reusing models please?

[Deveryn]

But sharlayan doesn’t exist there. Also, yes like Iscah said, the ruins we go to are south of Ilsabard, and it’s thavnairian, so please explain.

Cut the BS already. I gave you clues. Go do some research yourself. You ask a lot, yet you can't provide anything to counter what I've brought up. Quid pro quo. Pitch sets for Aetherial Sea, the moon and UT that would have fit in at the time of 6.0

You're grasping at straws trying to quiz me about this set and that set. You have no argument, so the next best thing is to try and trip me up. I'm done with this silly game.

[KizuyaKatogami]

Cut the BS already. I gave you clues. Go do some research yourself. You ask a lot, yet you can't provide anything to counter what I've brought up. Quid pro quo. Pitch sets for Aetherial Sea, the moon and UT that would have fit in at the time of 5.0

5.0 is ShB…. If you mean 6.0, someone else already mentioned, UT is the culmination of tons of different civilizations. They could draw inspiration from any of those. As for the moon, there’s loads of sci-fi esque gear they could use. Telling me to cut the bs yet you can’t defend your stance whatsoever. You’re trying to use lore as an excuse for the devs being lazy and cutting us out of glams when lore has never been a problem before. Why do we have skinny jeans, baseball caps, hoodies etc in game then hm? Not very fitting for the time period but they’re there nonetheless. Or how about the flying car mount, or flying motorcycle etc. I’ve countered you again and again, you just refuse to see reason because all you do is simp simp simp in any thread that critiques SE.

[Deveryn]

I'm simping? But you're the one that's putting all this effort into whining. You're badgering a player with questions better answered by the developers.

[MikkoAkure]

Mistyped, but what does it matter? Tell me again how a winter/snow themed gearset is lore accurate with an undersea dungeon. Now you’re just evading the question lol. Also if you’re going to try and insult someone’s intelligence, at least know proper grammar. It’s your in this case, not you’re.

To be fair, further up in the thread you used “i” instead of “I” so it’s a bit like the pot calling the kettle black and embarrassing to call it out unless your own grammar is airtight. Proper grammar doesn’t really exist on the internet anyway so it’s a hopeless effort to be the grammar police.

And in the same post, you said “arid desert” so I don’t think that’s a mistype when you repeated “desert” in a subsequent post for a dungeon zone that spends the first third in a misty rainforest.


As for the gear itself, “darbar” is a fancy Gujarati title so I assume the fur is there to make the gear look extra princely but I agree that it does look more than a little out of place and the choice of colors doesn’t help. But the Radiants’ choice of armor is also odd for a tropical location. I guess Hannish people are built different.

It wouldn’t be the first time the gear we get is a bit weird anyway since Ala Mhigo drops far-eastern gear and the level 69 and a level 60 dungeon drop Tactics Ogre gear in a sci-fi fortress and Polynesian-inspired floating island respectively.

The gear designers have been getting lazier though. I assume they’re a different team than the one that makes the mobs so I don’t know why the thread changed topics to it, but I noticed that miqo ears are disappearing under hats more often now as one example. Gear was blander in the 1.0 days, but it felt designed better and we could even wear visible belts on top of everything. I wonder how much of it could be the newer races taking up resources.

[Padudu]

I'm simping? But you're the one that's putting all this effort into whining. You're badgering a player with questions better answered by the developers.

I mean you're the one who brought it up in the first place, so not sure why he's badgering you when all you've amounted to say is: "it's because lore" and "do the research" when you clearly don't really know yourself as to why the glamours are strange for EW so far lol. I'd still like the context Iscah asked for those wintery coats that we got recently, since you apparently know a lot about Indian fashion. If you could provide the links for that, it'd be appreciated.

[KizuyaKatogami]

To be fair, further up in the thread you used “i” instead of “I” so it’s a bit like the pot calling the kettle black and embarrassing to call it out unless your own grammar is airtight. Proper grammar doesn’t really exist on the internet anyway so it’s a hopeless effort to be the grammar police.

And in the same post, you said “arid desert” so I don’t think that’s a mistype when you repeated “desert” in a subsequent post for a dungeon zone that spends the first third in a misty rainforest.


As for the gear itself, “darbar” is a fancy Gujarati title so I assume the fur is there to make the gear look extra princely but I agree that it does look more than a little out of place and the choice of colors doesn’t help. But the Radiants’ choice of armor is also odd for a tropical location. I guess Hannish people are built different.

It wouldn’t be the first time the gear we get is a bit weird anyway since Ala Mhigo drops far-eastern gear and the level 69 and a level 60 dungeon drop Tactics Ogre gear in a sci-fi fortress and Polynesian-inspired floating island respectively.

The gear designers have been getting lazier though. I assume they’re a different team than the one that makes the mobs so I don’t know why the thread changed topics to it, but I noticed that miqo ears are disappearing under hats more often now as one example. Gear was blander in the 1.0 days, but it felt designed better and we could even wear visible belts on top of everything. I wonder how much of it could be the newer races taking up resources.

Did you really go through my posts just to look for grammar mistakes Either way, he was the one trying to call me out for BS when he’s explicitly bringing up BS excuses but funny how you don’t call that out lol.Double standard but not surprised with you. My mistype was moreso i was trying to find the right word for it, thanks to Iscah i understand it now to be tropical.

As for the glams, its been an issue since shb so im not sure how much can be blamed on the new races and how much of it is just pure laziness. We didnt get a male equivalent to the 2b glam in nier, didnt get our tataru glam, dancer and gnb hardly got any primal weapons compared to samurai and rdm etc.

I'm simping? But you're the one that's putting all this effort into whining. You're badgering a player with questions better answered by the developers.

You're the one giving excuses for the gear as being "lore reasons." If you're going to come out with a shitty take like that, you better be prepared to back it up or you're going to look like nothing more than a delusional simp. As it stands, you haven't been able to back it up whatsoever, and when pressured you resorts to insulting by calling peoples criticism "whining."

[MikkoAkure]

Did you really go through my posts just to look for grammar mistakes

I have my settings to have the max posts per page so I didn’t exactly need to search for it and just noticed it near the top of the page when I was catching up on the thread and remembered that when further down you were calling someone else out on bad grammar.

As for the glams, its been an issue since shb so im not sure how much can be blamed on the new races and how much of it is just pure laziness. We didnt get a male equivalent to the 2b glam in nier, didnt get our tataru glam, dancer and gnb hardly got any primal weapons compared to samurai and rdm etc.

ShB was when we the roster of races was expanded again so I think we can still blame it on the Viera. Especially with how they still seem half-done and it feels like they were spreading their resources thin back then.

We did get our kind of ugly Tataru gear for 6.1 and a coat in 6.0. At least the necklace is nice.

I do think they need to get primal weapons for all jobs going back through history. Missing out on the dungeon weapons for prior dungeons before the level the jobs start makes sense, but the primal weapons are purely for glamour and it makes no sense at all for them to not make them.

[KizuyaKatogami]

I have my settings to have the max posts per page so I didn’t exactly need to search for it and just noticed it near the top of the page when I was catching up on the thread and remembered that when further down you were calling someone else out on bad grammar.



ShB was when we the roster of races was expanded again so I think we can still blame it on the Viera. Especially with how they still seem half-done and it feels like they were spreading their resources thin back then.

We did get our kind of ugly Tataru gear for 6.1 and a coat in 6.0. At least the necklace is nice.

I do think they need to get primal weapons for all jobs going back through history. Missing out on the dungeon weapons for prior dungeons before the level the jobs start makes sense, but the primal weapons are purely for glamour and it makes no sense at all for them to not make them.

The coat was a reused outfit. 6.1 was new yes but typically we get one per expansion, we got none in shb. There's also the fact of we started getting less content overall starting from ShB onwards so that combined with the less and reused glams makes me thing it isnt just the races thats an issue. Especially when you consider after 3 years the only thing the devs could muster for hrothgar was 6 hairstyles cutting off their ears. Something else seems to be going on.

Also...yes i was correcting him on grammar because if you'd read what i said, i said if you're going to insult someones intelligence at least have proper grammar otherwise they just look equally as lacking in that department. Im not over here insulting peoples intelligence like he is lol.

Also sidenote though, another thing i find interesting we're missing out on glam wise is....veteran rewards. We lost those about halfway through stormblood and havent gotten them back, so thats even more glams we've missed out on, which couldve been a great opportunity to move those to the achievement point system since thats been lacking for quite some time now but, that would require actual effort on their part.

[Deveryn]

I never actually said anything about lore, but I couldn't be bothered to correct, lest that be misinterpreted. Clearly, I was damned if I did and damned if I didn't. You don't care for the truth, only to whine and complain and label me as a simp.

To review: my conclusion had to do with the fact that the team explores different parts of the real world and its history and through the course of the story you run into varied groups inspired by one thing or another. These were plentiful in past expansions, but here we are facing the end of the world and exploring areas where nothing really thrives. In the case of Sharlayan and Labrynthos, we've seen plenty and more of that style since Heavensward. The moon buns could potentially come up with some sort of fashion, but in 6.0 they were a little too busy with more important matters.

On the matter of new gear vs. reskins, I'm reserving judgment until after 7.0 comes out and we see all that they gave us. That's just the sensible and logical thing to do.

Don't try to call me on BS when you're bringing up stuff that isn't even related to the main topic. You really went off the rails bringing up jeans and such, items that have never had any real connection to the story and the world. It's all been map dungeon drops and mog station items.

[KizuyaKatogami]

I never actually said anything about lore, but I couldn't be bothered to correct, lest that be misinterpreted. Clearly, I was damned if I did and damned if I didn't. You don't care for the truth, only to whine and complain and label me as a simp.

To review: my conclusion had to do with the fact that the team explores different parts of the real world and its history and through the course of the story you run into varied groups inspired by one thing or another. These were plentiful in past expansions, but here we are facing the end of the world and exploring areas where nothing really thrives. In the case of Sharlayan and Labrynthos, we've seen plenty and more of that style since Heavensward. The moon buns could potentially come up with some sort of fashion, but in 6.0 they were a little too busy with more important matters.

On the matter of new gear vs. reskins, I'm reserving judgment until after 7.0 comes out and we see all that they gave us. That's just the sensible and logical thing to do.

Don't try to call me on BS when you're bringing up stuff that isn't even related to the main topic. You really went off the rails bringing up jeans and such, items that have never had any real connection to the story and the world. It's all been map dungeon drops and mog station items.

You inherently brought up the lore of each zone though as a point to why they did or didnt have glams. You brought up Ultima Thule, of which theres numerous civilizations we're shown they could have taken inspiration from. You brought up the moon, of which case the rabbits could have made something, but we didnt even have a dungeon on the moon so the point is rather moot.I brought up the jeans etc because it really does seem youre trying to argue the story or lore=glams. You were trying to use the geographical location of the new dungeon to try and defend the snow themed gear when in reality it doesnt work...