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    Tsukino Mahou
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    I don't mind that things get reused in a general sense, but it is frustrating when the ratio of reused assets to new ones can be seen increasing over time. Like everyone said, pretty much every other MMO, every other RPG, every other video game creates the illusion of more variety with palette swaps and different textures, and it's better than not using them and having the exact same things repeated across the world (looking at you, PS2 era FFXI). But it also isn't great when you can clearly see less new stuff in the latest expansion than the ones that came before - notably the distribution of gear sets in the dungeons in 6.0 - we know they could make more new things because they have before, and the game seems to be more popular than ever.
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    Quote Originally Posted by MikkoAkure View Post
    I don't see how clambering around a crashed android space station from NieR is fine, but a recolored mob is worthy of a forum post.
    Being fair, a lot of people complain about that, too. It's just died down now because it's over.
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    So basically game development normal stuff which is nothing special and a common thing.

    On the other hand, I am surprised they didn't borrow more skeleton models/enemies from other games.

    Like they used so little the FFXII werewolf type of enemy (the ones you find in Lakeland and the 1st boss of lv87 dungeon).
    That game is a single player MMO and there so many animations between auto attacks, casting etc work in XIV
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    My issue is just how many armor-sets seem to be reskins, and not in any particular way.

    Like, if you're going to reskin something, maybe go a little crazier with the color scheme, instead of essentially just "dying" the armor?

    Like... even a really simple change might've been, take the crafted gear at Endwalker's launch. It was all the same gear as old PvP stuff. On my Reaper, it was legit nearly indistinguishable, other than the chest is black by default instead white.

    Well, it also has as "accent color" that's all this weird light-grey color. Your sandals, the cloth that wraps around your legs is all light-grey. What if they'd simply made that brown leather-colored? It might not sound like much, but at least then there's be SOME identity to it, imo.

    Nothing unforgivable, mind you. But the constant reskins are starting to really stand out. Just like the new PvP gear, it all recolored AF armor from Heavensward. I happen to dig the AST one, but again, it's just starting to set a worrying precedent, like maybe we aren't going to be seeing much more NEW armor?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rolder50 View Post
    Don't forget how the majority of new armor sets they released in Endwalker for the leveling dungeons and stuff are just re-used models of older gear!
    The worst part is this game is over 10 years old yet we're still getting reused sets that arent even dyable. undyable reused sets....in 2022....
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    That's pretty normal. Monster Hunter is Capcom's most profitable series ever and they regularly use the skeleton+animations of older monsters for new ones. (did you know that both Nergigante and Magnamalo reuse many of Gore Magala's animations?) In any sort of art related industry it's just smart to re-use assets. I work in the comic industry and it's extremely common to just copy/paste panels or backgrounds because there's no reason to redraw certain things.
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    Khujo'sae Tayuun
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    it's like this, you see,

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    Blackiron Tarkus
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    I think the worst offender is reusing models that originally cannot be dyed, but then re-release it again with the same problem. A big offender imo is the Kitesos set, specifically the fending. Calling it a recolor is imo too gracious. It's more like a tint or shade from the original set in Hero's Gauntlet. I've always wanted to dye that set but nope just another reskin with no option to dye. It's just like the "ultimate" weapons. Just reskins but at least its a different color and glow but still no option to dye.

    We've passed the point where releasing equipment that cannot be dyed should not be implemented in the game until they can. Even worse, is when they release it in the cash shop. How low effort do you need to be to not even tick the boxes to allow dyes. You already went through the trouble of rigging why not give the option to dye?

    I can deal with reused models but no option to dye should be cause for concern, especially in a game where glamour has taken the focus of the majority of players because lets face it, bis is always irrelevant in 6 months so you are only going for glamour at the end of the day.
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  9. #39
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    Quote Originally Posted by NitrogenFixation View Post
    it's like this, you see,

    Well, this type of people also want longer game, faster development time, super ultra graphic but price need to be lower than $60 otherwise this company is greedy
    They also don't care if devs have to work like slaves to meet that conditions
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    Deveryn Ev'liarsh
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    It wouldn't be Final Fantasy (or an RPG) without models and skeletons being reused.

    PS. Don't look at other player characters too closely. That might upset you even more.
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