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    Quote Originally Posted by Lihtleita View Post
    not only are we getting more reskins, but a lot of roles share the same model. instead of getting 7 outfits per tomeset we get like 3 and a spare shoulderpad.
    That is literally how most gearsets have worked since ARR. Occasional sets get more designs, but three or four is normal.

    ARR's tome sets were Darklight (essentially the fully upgraded versions of the same repeated cowl, harness and tin-can tank reiterated since level 15), a recycling of the job gear designs, then Gerolt's Masterworks (5 designs, 1 duplicate) and Ironworks (5 designs, 2 duplicate).

    Fast forward to Shadowbringers and we have Ronkan (4 designs, 3 variants or duplicates) Deepshadow (4+3), Crystarium (4+3) and Cryptlurker (3+4).

    On those numbers it seems that the number of designs has actually gone up, but spread across more sets instead of having two low-effort sets and two fancier ones.



    Quote Originally Posted by KizuyaKatogami View Post
    Or at this point just give us the actual ascian gear as drops. Not the bootlegged lookin shadowless gear.
    I thought the mage outfits were specifically the Ascian and Emissary robes? Though I never got around to actually comparing.

    Would you rather all seven roles got the same black robes?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Iscah View Post
    That is literally how most gearsets have worked since ARR. Occasional sets get more designs, but three or four is normal.

    ARR's tome sets were Darklight (essentially the fully upgraded versions of the same repeated cowl, harness and tin-can tank reiterated since level 15), a recycling of the job gear designs, then Gerolt's Masterworks (5 designs, 1 duplicate) and Ironworks (5 designs, 2 duplicate).

    Fast forward to Shadowbringers and we have Ronkan (4 designs, 3 variants or duplicates) Deepshadow (4+3), Crystarium (4+3) and Cryptlurker (3+4).

    On those numbers it seems that the number of designs has actually gone up, but spread across more sets instead of having two low-effort sets and two fancier ones.





    I thought the mage outfits were specifically the Ascian and Emissary robes? Though I never got around to actually comparing.

    Would you rather all seven roles got the same black robes?
    Theres differences, also missing the most iconic thing about them(hoods), and yeah thats only 2 roles out of how many? At the very least make them mogstation or something idk.But its the same problem as 9s gear in copied factory all being different from 9s' actual clothes, and being role locked.

    As for the arr to shb thing.....8 year difference and one set extra is what they can come up with? And then of course we have EW with the entire missing set for the 89 dungeon AND reused, undyable gear...
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    Quote Originally Posted by KizuyaKatogami View Post
    As for the arr to shb thing.....8 year difference and one set extra is what they can come up with?
    I'm not sure what numbers you are adding from my post.

    10 unique models in ARR tome sets vs 15 in Shadowbringers is not "one more".
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    No. Let's actually spell out what the 89 dungeon is. The Aetherial Sea. The center of our world. What exactly is missing from this Sharlayan-made structure going deep into Etheirys?
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    Gosh dang I love it when someone lays down the law like this.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Deveryn View Post
    No. Let's actually spell out what the 89 dungeon is. The Aetherial Sea. The center of our world. What exactly is missing from this Sharlayan-made structure going deep into Etheirys?
    If you’re going to use the lore excuse(which is a horrible one btw) then please tell me why we got winter/snow themed sets from an undersea desert dungeon. Please explain.
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    Quote Originally Posted by KizuyaKatogami View Post
    If you’re going to use the lore excuse(which is a horrible one btw) then please tell me why we got winter/snow themed sets from an undersea desert dungeon. Please explain.
    You speak of a desert, so I'm disregarding this. The lore excuse is solid, unlike you're knowledge of climates.
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    Pretty sure the big Z borrows a few things from Sephirot or is at least based on him. They really did our boy dirty in EW.

    The way Z idles with the hand on the platform is pretty much the exact same thing as when Sephirot pops out from the pit and lays his hand on the platform to drag himself up or am i just seeing things?

    Also saw it earlier, but who ever said Vanaspati final boss is new, has not done Omega 1 or S ranks in ShB, its just the Alte Roite skeleton with an worm skin.

    Reuse is fine, but please a new model every now and then? I'm legit to lazy to go through every single zone and dungeon, but how many new skeletons/models did we get in this expansion?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Deveryn View Post
    You speak of a desert, so I'm disregarding this. The lore excuse is solid, unlike you're knowledge of climates.
    Mistyped, but what does it matter? Tell me again how a winter/snow themed gearset is lore accurate with an undersea dungeon. Now you’re just evading the question lol. Also if you’re going to try and insult someone’s intelligence, at least know proper grammar. It’s your in this case, not you’re.
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    Quote Originally Posted by KizuyaKatogami View Post
    Mistyped, but what does it matter? Tell me again how a winter/snow themed gearset is lore accurate with an undersea dungeon. Now you’re just evading the question lol. Also if you’re going to try and insult someone’s intelligence, at least know proper grammar. It’s your in this case, not you’re.
    Mistyped? It actually does matter.

    At any rate, do yourself a favor and look up fashions from India. That's where Thavnair gains its inspiration from.
    You should also check to see where the dungeon actually lies, up in Ilsabard, where it's a cooler climate.

    Everything makes sense if you make the effort to look and see what's going on.
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