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    Player Deveryn's Avatar
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    I've been thinking about this some more.

    The intro to Endwalker just doesn't lend itself to exploring new and varied styles as previous expansions. Only two of the six areas we go to have anything to offer as far as culture and dress. They likely went back to Stormblood for crafted gear for that link back to Zenos.

    Hopefully, we'll see more as we start on our new adventures.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rein_eon_Osborne View Post
    Could’ve been better too, like role swapped pieces. They’ve done this a few times before like Eikon <—> Pixie Cloth (lv74 crafted) ; Farlander <—> Iridescent.

    Meanwhile the crafted lv86 and Classical are both plain clone of PvP sets with different dye palette & no role swapped. (HW & StB Republican sets). Lv80, 82, & 88 crafted are also similar being a clone to the Alliance, Shire, & Neo-Ishgardian set respectively without role swaps, although I guess the two former no longer requires player to touch PvP should they want those glams so it’s a positive(?). Ktiseos felt like a slap though. No role swap & not dyeable. But I guess not being locked behind capstone dungeon RNG loot is a plus?

    Imperial, Palaka, Moonward, Limbo/Asphodelos, Radiant, & Panthean are all welcome addition though.
    They may technically not be able to role swap the Skalla/Snow Linen, Swallows Compass/Manusya, and Neo-Ishgardian/lvl 88 gear because those are all gear design contest winner gears. Since they are not the ones that developed original designs there may be a limit on what they can do to switch it up. Some of the others are definitely a little disappointing. The lvl 86 gear especially, then again I wasn't a fan of the original version of that stuff either so that might have something to do with it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Vrankyl View Post
    They may technically not be able to role swap the Skalla/Snow Linen, Swallows Compass/Manusya, and Neo-Ishgardian/lvl 88 gear because those are all gear design contest winner gears.
    On the one hand, yes that's likely and I've had the same thought. They probably thought it was a nice idea to bring back all of the player-designed items for the finale, but didn't want to change the "specifically designed for X role" intent.

    On the other... surely they could have swapped around the other dev-designed classes, even if they leave the one player-designed role untouched?

    I'm also still sad about the lack of gear in the Aitiascope, even though we didn't functionally need it from there.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Iscah View Post
    On the one hand, yes that's likely and I've had the same thought. They probably thought it was a nice idea to bring back all of the player-designed items for the finale, but didn't want to change the "specifically designed for X role" intent.

    On the other... surely they could have swapped around the other dev-designed classes, even if they leave the one player-designed role untouched?

    I'm also still sad about the lack of gear in the Aitiascope, even though we didn't functionally need it from there.
    That would be a nice thing, and yeah they should be able to swap the ones outside of the designed role. I was also hoping for them to have swapped around the designs on the reused alliance set. I love that aiming top and I'd love to be able to use it on other roles too.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rein_eon_Osborne View Post
    Exactly my disappointment when I first saw the Snow Linen, Ktiseos, & Manusya set.
    Snow Linen at least has a different dye set. Skalla is different because it only dyes lines compared to full dye with snow linen.

    (Kinda wished we had a way to dye certain parts without forcing to add same gear)
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    To be fair, its an FF game, monster models get reused all the time and more often with just a recolor. As for gear, personally could care less about basic crafted and dungeon gear being reused, as long as theres new tome, raid, and the occasional crafted glam set its all good... you cant possibly expect them to make new sets for every stupid piece of content?
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    Quote Originally Posted by YukikoKurosawa View Post
    My god. You are making more money than ever.
    I am fairly sure this means nothing. More money doesn't equal more employees usually
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nanne View Post
    I am fairly sure this means nothing. More money doesn't equal more employees usually
    From what I've seen, making more money has been harmful to the product in a lot of ways, unfortunately.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Deveryn View Post
    Ktiseos and Manusya were to be expected. They fit the areas properly. Imperial and Palaka were very welcome additions. 5.0 provided quite a bit with all the artifact armor which was given a dye option. We then had moonward, limbo, radiant, classical, panthean.

    Snow Linen and other sets were nice additions for an alternate take on coloring options.
    I don’t think many are arguing against them being reused, so much as they’re reused AND STILL UNDYABLE. Like there is no excuse for this other than laziness. It’s like when they released shire gear for a 3rd time in Anamnesis and didn’t even bother to role swap it or anything.
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    Quote Originally Posted by KizuyaKatogami View Post
    I don’t think many are arguing against them being reused, so much as they’re reused AND STILL UNDYABLE. Like there is no excuse for this other than laziness. It’s like when they released shire gear for a 3rd time in Anamnesis and didn’t even bother to role swap it or anything.
    There's nothing wrong with consistency in role gear. It sounds like they want to maintain some identity between them.

    I see nothing wrong with anything related to Ascians being undyable. That's how they were presented. Not everything needs the option to be dyed especially if it's gonna be dyed in some heinous fashion
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