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  1. #1
    Player
    Desna's Avatar
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    Aldebrand Pradesh
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    Ultros
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    Sage Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by RemTsuki View Post
    To SE: The Sage skill Pepsis is completely useless, I can't understand why one would want to instantly remove a shield effect that's already just applied for a healing effect with a weak potency equivalent to that of Medica. What's the point of making it compatible with Diagnosis then? and making nobody else receive the extra heal effect that this skill brings? "Pepsis Dodge"? lol what a joke.

    In order for this Pepsis skill to work, the Eukrasia shield effect must still be present, which means you have to press a 3 button sequence (Eukrasia > Prognosis or Diagnosis > Pepsis) for a light effect aoe or target heal.

    I can see that you guys are trying too hard to avoid making a copycat skill of Scholar's Indomitability, Astro's Horoscope, or White Mage's Plenary Indulgence. But this useless hybrid of a new skill called Pepsis just isn't realistic anywhere, not only in dungeon but also in casual raid. Like I said, why cancel a shield effect just freshly applied just to throw in a heal?

    My suggestion to fix this skill and make it relevant is now is to eliminate the Eukrasian shield requirement for Pepsis to work. Thank you for reading.
    It...works fine. It's a good solid skill and nice in the toolkit. Something I use on a regular basis too. Use it for what it's meant for and it's great. Really...why compare a tool in the toolkit of a shield healer to something in the toolkit of a pure healer? Homogenizing jobs so they're all similar makes them all boring. I don't want my Sage to run anything like my WHM and vice versa, I also don't want my Scholar to Run anything like my AST etc etc...each job should be unique, have unigue application sets for their skills and should require you to work to master each assembly of skills to produce performance. Eliminating the Eukrasian shield requirement makes the skill...less intelligent, requires less thinking and planning from the user and...no thank you, I want my Sage to run requiring me to think and plan for the incomming damage in any given fight...a shield healer isn't a pure healer, our job is about timing and planning, not reaction speed and throughput. We prevent damage, that's what we do, and building that into something we can disperse when needed for a decent AOE heal? That's just silky smooth perfection if you plan right, it works like a raid wide Benediction if you time it well so no...no changes there please. It's just fine. You already have Holos...you don't need Pepsis to work in the same application point of a fight. Please though, SE? Don't dumb Sage down, I'm begging. Keep it sharp, keep it unique unto itself. Please, keep ALL of the jobs unique unto themselves and no more simplifying and homogenizing PLEASE.
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    Ku Rando
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    Scholar Lv 100
    It's not useless but Pepsis could do with an adjustment honestly. Least with Emergency Tactics you don't have to worry about another SCH or SGE overwriting your barrier, or quickly losing said barrier from damage that you intended to convert to health recovery. Granted in high-end content you probably wouldn't have double shields healers anyway, but everywhere else it can be a bit of a nuisance at times.
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    Qoo Er
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    Sargatanas
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    Astrologian Lv 90
    pepsis is filling an already occupied niche; wasnt the point of regular prognosis to let sage have a medica equivalent? why do we need to have a skill that turns succor into medica when its already there? the extra 150 potency barely makes a difference.
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    Andreas Cestelle
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    Scholar Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by QooEr View Post
    pepsis is filling an already occupied niche; wasnt the point of regular prognosis to let sage have a medica equivalent? why do we need to have a skill that turns succor into medica when its already there? the extra 150 potency barely makes a difference.
    This is exactly my thinking, sure e prognosis+ Pepsis is a slightly higher potency gain than just casting prognosis but they were roughly intended to serve the same function, since Pepsis is also a flat heal it doesn’t get buffed by Zoe like prognosis does, so pneuma covers burst healing most of the time, Zoe prognosis can cover emergencies, why does Pepsis exist in the same space
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    Mira Clearweaver
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    Conjurer Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by QooEr View Post
    pepsis is filling an already occupied niche; wasnt the point of regular prognosis to let sage have a medica equivalent? why do we need to have a skill that turns succor into medica when its already there? the extra 150 potency barely makes a difference.
    Personally to me it just sounded like they added Pepsis just for the sake of having 'SGE version of ET'.

    At least we can use Pepsis to reapply shield should we realized we applied the former too early to catch next mech/damage. Something that SCHs couldn't do unless you can get 7 other player to click off their Galvanize to achieve the same result (lol not gonna happen). But other than that, it goes to the list of "Why do you even exist"-button
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rein_eon_Osborne View Post
    Personally to me it just sounded like they added Pepsis just for the sake of having 'SGE version of ET'.
    yup. cant have the new healer being too original! everything must have a counterpart!
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    Saito Soji
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    Coeurl
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    i use pepsis on a regular basis while healing with SGE

    -shrug- i see no issue with the ability. it works as intended.
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    Gisela Thorne
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    Black Mage Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by XiaoShengwu View Post
    i use pepsis on a regular basis while healing with SGE

    -shrug- i see no issue with the ability. it works as intended.
    You don't even need Diagnosis/Prognosis on regular basis, you are probably just doing Sage version of Medica 2 spam.
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    Ryodin Wake
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    Ninja Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by ThorneDynasty View Post
    You don't even need Diagnosis/Prognosis on regular basis, you are probably just doing Sage version of Medica 2 spam.
    This person knows what they're talking about. Not to sound totally condescending but it makes me shake my head every time I see people say stuff like this. "I use *insert near totally useless spell* all the time. You're just not using it right.". "If healing in this game is boring, you're not healing right.". The truth is that in order to have the most fun healing in this game, you have to turn your brain off and not play optimally. I can't believe we're 4 expansions in and the devs haven't introduced active healing into the game.
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    Saito Soji
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    Coeurl
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    Sage Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by ThorneDynasty View Post
    You don't even need Diagnosis/Prognosis on regular basis, you are probably just doing Sage version of Medica 2 spam.
    no. all abilities can be utilized independently of each other throughout the gameplay of the class. diag/prog is primarily cure and adlo. pepsis to my mind works as a top off/alternatively can be used in place of prog for refill heals as prog doesn't always cut it in lower sync'd dungeons where pesis is available.. in those instances where you're brough to 1hp it's also a nice jump up without needing to spam part wide heals.

    understanding the job, doesn't mean one spams abilities.
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